Author: Will Singleton
Date: 19:27:09 12/21/99
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On December 21, 1999 at 19:05:13, Dann Corbit wrote:
>On December 21, 1999 at 18:55:50, Greg Lindahl wrote:
>>On December 21, 1999 at 18:01:42, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>
>>> Instead, you state the fact like
>>>gospel and just assume it solves everything.
>>
>>Stop right there -- I didn't assume anything. You assumed. Again, this is the
>>same communications problem I've pointed out repeatedly.
>There was a guy I read about in the paper. He married more than one hundred
>different women. Imagine that! I started thinking to myself. Now, if that was
>me, I might imagine that I had caught ahold of a bad woman or two. But by the
>time I got into the 90's, I would probably have thought -- "Hey, maybe it's not
>always *them* maybe it's *me*!"
>
>>> How about you just try to learn from the
>>>experts here? Maybe after you understand some of the problems, you can begin to
>>>help solve them.
>>
>>I am trying to learn from the experts.
>>
>>Maybe some century you'll notice.
>
>You are talking to one of them (TK). Tom has entered (and done well) in
>computer chess world championships with his chess program Stobor. Dr. Hyatt,
>whom you seem to struggle with in other branches of this thread is another.
>Robert Hyatt wrote the program Cray Blitz, which was a world champion program.
>He is also the author of Crafty, which is the strongest ameteur open-source
>program in the world. I'm just mentioning that because there are not a lot of
>great ameteur programmers around who will be willing to donate their time to
>your little project. Now, I think that just possibly you're not going about
>this the right way. If I was searching for top experts to help me, I think I
>might just try to be nice to them and listen quietly. I doubt very much if I
>should tell them that they don't know what they are talking about.
>
>>In the meantime, you can stop calling people names, putting words in their
>>mouths, and making assumptions.
>pot
>kettle
>black
>[IMO-YMMV]
>{SEE! I told everyone I would be a crappy moderator.}
Dann, you know I appreciate all your work with the CAP project, as well as all
your other efforts. Tom, you have a special place in this group with TSCP, not
even counting your other contributions. Bob, everyone acknowledges your
expertise and your long service in the computer chess field. And Amir, as well
as others who have participated in this thread with Greg, your standing here is
known.
I would just say that, from my pov, there have been certain parties throwing
invective, making deprecating comments, and acting in a defensive manner. It
isn't Greg. I have been a bit disturbed to see this going on. This is
certainly not in the spirit of comradeship and discovery.
Why do we act defensive? Perhaps his initial post could have been worded
slightly better, but considering the usual drivel that passes muster, his was
one that represented an opportunity for real discussion and learning. I was
looking forward to it, but it instead degenerated into name-calling and
miscommunication. I don't think Greg was to blame for that.
Reading back over the entire thread, I really believe the fault here is with us,
not Greg. Let's all be a bit more tolerant of new members. Perhaps Greg will
surprise us all, and become a bona-fide chess developer. I believe that we
should encourage that, in Greg and other new members.
Will
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