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Subject: Re: The Sorrowful cycle of every Professional Computer Chess Player

Author: Fernando Villegas

Date: 16:42:50 12/22/99

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On December 22, 1999 at 19:33:08, Jesper Antonsson wrote:

>On December 22, 1999 at 06:01:44, Georg v. Zimmermann wrote:
>
>>On December 21, 1999 at 12:27:46, Graham Laight wrote:
>>
>>>If Moore's law continues to hold (computer power doubles every 18 months), and
>>>it has held since the mid sixties, it's easy to demonstrate that computer
>>>intelligence will surpass human intelligence in about 2021.
>>
>>How do u know how fast a comp. is needed to surpass human intelligence? I'd be
>>suprised if something(someone?!) would pass the T-test within that period.
>
>Well, the Turing test is about emulating humans. Isn't it conceivable that an
>entity can't convincingly act human even though he is more intelligent?  Chess
>programs play better than most of the chess playing population, but they can't
>pass a Turing test even if input/output is limited to chess moves. In the
>future, when computers are better than any human, they still won't pass such a
>test, but nevertheless they will be more intelligent when it comes to chess,
>won't they?

You are right but we have to be cautious with the sheer use of the word
"Intelligence". IF intelligence has to do only with the level of perfomance
reached in specific tasks, then no more questioning needed, but maybe it is so
only partially, because probably there is another aspect that goes beyond
performing tasks. This other thing has to do with the capacity to go beyond the
paradigms of the task, to organize data in new ways, etc. Genuses, that are in
the higher level of human intelligence, do precisely that and because of doing
it they are or could be surpassed in the current, "normal" task by less gifted
people that does not ask himself about the nature of what they do, but just do
it. Not uncommon that the brightests children some time seems to be "slower"
than his more average friends.
Fernando



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