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Subject: Re: Chess Tiger - Is It Really 2696 ELO?

Author: John Warfield

Date: 16:47:10 12/22/99

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On December 22, 1999 at 09:07:19, blass uri wrote:

>On December 22, 1999 at 08:16:55, Graham Laight wrote:
>>>Kasparov doesn't tend to lose to computers, excepting one match vs DB.
>>
>>He lost a G25 match against Genius in London in 1994 - and Kasparov had the
>>white pieces! Worse still, the computer, from memory, was only a Pentium 90 -
>>not even a Pentium II!
>
>I do not count this games because of 2 reasons
>1)These games are not 120/40 time control
>
>2)kasparov believed that he played against Genius2 and not against genius3.
>
>In another match of 2 games kasparov won genius3 in G25 1.5:.5 and Genius3 had a
>better hardware relative to the first match(p120)
>
>kasparov also won a blitz tournament with fritz3 some years ago and won fritz3
>in the match between them about the first place.
>>
>>Gary's problem seems to be his style: he is a brilliant tactician, who is not
>>usually frightened of seeing a complicated malaise in from of him. But Deeper
>>Blue (and the other computers) have taught him to be afraid - very afraid - of
>>tactics when he's up against a machine.
>
>I do not agree that kasparov's style is the problem.
>I believe that kasparov is the best player against computers.
>
>He knows to play the opponent and not the board.
>He played 1.e3 against Fritz3 to get it out of book early and did the same
>against deeper blue.
>
>Some GM's cannot change their style against computers and these GM's have
>problems against computers
>
>>Then SSDF will have to rate his program. At the moment, he's asked for his
>>programs not to be rated by SSDF. Ed seems to have a fear of competition.
>
>I do not agree.
>Rebel won a computer-computer tournament in 3 hours/game with tiger
>
>I understood that Rebel has a bug in the autoplayer and that this is the reason
>that Ed does not want to be tested by the ssdf.
>
>I guess that he is going to be happy to be tested manually like chessmaster6000
>
>>long since stopped entering computer tournaments. He's not afraid to compete
>>against top players because, at the moment, he's the only one doing it.
>
>Junior and fritz are also going to play against humans in the near future in the
>Israel first league.
>
>Uri

  Based on the play I have seen of Rebel ED Schoeder has nothing to fear at all.



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