Author: Ramón Martínez
Date: 06:09:53 12/29/99
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On December 29, 1999 at 00:11:26, Harald Faber wrote: >On December 28, 1999 at 20:15:52, Vicente Fernández wrote: > >>Here I post the games of a minimatch between Rebel Century and Shredder 4, on >>two computers, one k6III-400, 128 ram, and the other a K6II-300, 128 ram. Games >>in 30 minutes each, handled manually. Programs played alternating computers. >>Rebel Century play with its strongest settings plus antigrandmaster= smart, 60 >>hash. Shredder played with 90 hash. >> Frankly, I expected much more from Shredder 4. A 3.5-0.5 result for Rebel was >>too much for me, but then came the surprise. As far as I can see, Shredder's >>book needs improvement: The World Champion starts thinking when Rebel still has >>three or more moves on its book. And the evaluation... just see for yourselves: >>it just keeps jumping from +40 to - 1.40 and so on, while Rebel's is steady and >>reliable. I don't know what's the matter with Shredder 4 (yes, I turned the >>commentary off etc. etc.), but it doesn't look like a World Champ in my >>machines. And considering the unsteady evaluations, I won't use it either for >>game analysis. Compared to Hiarcs 7.32, Rebel Century, Chessmaster 6000, Fritz 6 >>(light), Fritz 5.32 or Junior 5, Shredder 4 's evaluation is a joke. Please, >>take a look at the games and to the jumpy evaluations. Compare them to the ones >>you get from Rebel Century and see the difference. >>Vicente F. Herrasti >> > >Apparently you, like some others, underestimate Rebel. >And 4 games rapid chess is a) very few and b) not comparable with tournament >time control. I don't underestimate Rebel. Far from it. And yes, it is obvious that game 30 is not equal to tournament time control. And more yes, of course I know 4 games are not enough. My point was the irregular evaluation I noticed on Shredder 4. As an example, look at the first game, move 31: eval: +.33. MOve 32: -2.83. Century saw this 3 or 4 moves before and Shredder didn't even notice. By the way: ¿Why did you understand that I underestimated Rebel? I cannot read anything in my post that leads to such an opinion. Neither did I said anything like "4 games are enough".
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