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Subject: A Plea for Grandmaster Qualification Data

Author: Leon Stancliff

Date: 09:45:29 01/01/00


To whom it may concern,

  I am very much interested in determining as valid a criteria as possible for
classifying computer chess playing programs as Grandmaster level. What number of
games should be considered as reasonably reliable? What achievements should be
evaluated?
  Since Fide titled players are hesitant about allowing computers to compete in
the higher class tournaments required for Grandmaster norms, there must be some
alternative method. Let us see if we can develop something which will be as
reliable as possible when compared with the FIDE qualifications for awarding of
the GM title.
  First, we need to know precisely what the Grandmaster norms are at present.
Arpad Elo gives them in his book THE RATING OF CHESSPLAYERS, published in 1978.
At that time it appears that 24 games was the required number. A performance
rating of 2550 had to be achieved three times within a three years period. A
percentage of 55% had to be scored against the GM opponents faced in the 24
games.
  If someone has this sort of information for present FIDE GM title
qualification, will you please make it available on CCC?
  Second, someone suggested data giving the FIDE rating which present day GMs
had at the time the title was awarded would be useful in determining whether the
programs were performing at GM level. If you have the GM title and you know what
your FIDE rating was at the time your title was awarded, or you know of such
information about present GMs, please share it with us here on ICC.
  In 1978 Arpad Elo gave the average rating of the GMs who had been awarded the
title during the years 1971 to 1977. That average was 2518 for 67 GMs. It was
not the average rating when they were awarded the title, but was probably fairly
close. Most of them would probably have increased their rating just a bit from
the time of the award to the year 1978.
  Does anyone think FIDE has this latter information. Would they cooperate if
they do have it?

Leon Stancliff



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