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Subject: Re: Poll Question - Tournaments vs Matches

Author: Graham Laight

Date: 05:34:34 01/07/00

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On January 07, 2000 at 01:02:21, Ed Schröder wrote:

>Graham, to think about:

OK - I've done some thinking, sir!

>Rebel-9 beat Yusupov convingly at 5/all. Yusupov did clearly in the longer
>time control games.
>
>In the six 5/all games Rebel-10 scored 4.5-1.5 against Anand, TPR far above
>3000. Rebel-10 did win with 1.5-0.5 in the two 15/all games. Rebel-10 lost

Wooooaaaaa! If Anand is 2780 FIDE Elo (from memory), then 4.5-1.5 (which is
equivalent to 7.5-2.5) would yield a TPR of just under 3000 (excuse me if my
quick calculation is wrong).

>with 0.5-1.5 in the two 40/2h games.
>
>In comp-comp (SSDF for example) there is not much difference (+/- 50 elo)
>playing blitz or 40/2h games. In human-comp I estimate that difference at
>400-600 elo points.
>
>Get the point?
>
>Ed

I fully understand the point - computers do better against us at fast time
controls, but worse at slow time controls.

However, the SS numbers for the differences (which admittedly have been disputed
in another thread, but which have been established over many years, and which
are probably about right) are quite different to your numbers.

From memory: (I will check these numbers later)

40/120 - Neutral
G/30 - Add 80 points to computer rating
G/5 - Add 250 points to computer rating

Anyway, I think that both sides of this debate will be much happier when the
FIDE rating is established with tournament games rather than extrapolating from
blitz games.

I hope that this post demonstrates both that I've done some thinking, and that I
get the point you're trying to make.

-g



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