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Subject: Re: observation- transposing back to opening book

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 21:21:16 01/07/00

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On January 06, 2000 at 21:29:57, Mike S. wrote:

>On January 05, 2000 at 22:12:45, vincent dichiacchio wrote:
>
>>One of my chess programs always transposes to books when it can, even when it
>>shouldnt.
>
>What do you mean, are the book move worse than what the program would calculate
>itself? In this case the book must be bad, or not in tournament setting.
>In the Fritz GUI's, it is a user setting if the book should be checked always or
>not. But normally, transposing back as you say, should be an *advantage* when
>the book is well done, consisting of reliable theory moves.
>Some opening book, especially large one's generated from game databases, have
>been critizised because of blunders, but also because they may be *too large*,
>delaying the engine start to a point where the middlegame may be already shaped,
>leaving not enough "game" for the program.
>
>Regards,
>M.Scheidl


There are some nonsensical transpositions:

1. e4 e5 2. Bb5 a6 3. Nf3 and now it is black's move.  If he plays Nc6 he
transposes back into a well-known Ruy Lopez line.  If he plays axb5 he wins
the game instantly.  :)

2. Another bad thing. You have a bad line that your program won't play, because
a particular move is marked as ? to prevent this.  So you search and try to
find something else, and do.  Your opponent makes the next book line move anyway
and _now_ your program transposes right back into book by playing the move that
was marked with a ?, since it is now one move further into the line and this
move is not really a known book line except for the transposition.  So you
transpose back into a line you know is bad. And you lose again. This has
happened to me a few times...

1. I have pretty well solved.  2 is much harder.



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