Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 06:56:47 01/09/00
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On January 09, 2000 at 07:15:37, Graham Laight wrote: >On January 08, 2000 at 22:35:02, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>One good example: Imagine a karate black-belt that _never_ learned that it is >>ok to use his feet. He only does punches, etc with his hands. But since his >>entire dojo or club fights by the same rules, you get black belts of various >>degrees, brown belts, green belts, and so forth. And two black belts from this >>dojo could have an interesting and even fight. >> >>But what happens when they go to a national tournament where _other_ 'black >>belts' use their feet as well? murder. > >I agree this is a good analogy. But for the purpose of this debate, I would like >to alter it slightly. > >In this country, there are only 2 karate clubs. In club A, people only fight >with their hands. In club B, people only fight with their feet. When they get >together in the national league, one may fight with both hands and feet. > >Now, in the past, club A were relative novices, and they only achieved green >belts. When they fought the black belts from club B, they would get trashed. >However, club A have been working hard to improve themselves, and they now rank >themselves as black belts. But the experts in club B are now refusing to fight >the club A black belts under the proper rules! > >IMHO, most impartial observers would be more supportive of club A's position >than they would club B's. :) > >-g Except we don't see this on the servers, we see plenty of data on how programs are doing. And we know that the SSDF is made up of nothing but computers, so that humans can't exploit any computerisms to point out the holes... But the two pools of players _are_ 100% disjoint in the SSDF case... and predicting across disjoint pools is essentially impossible. > >>Computers have holes. But as long as they play other computers, these holes >>don't get exploited. For example, hardly any computer I know of is any good >>at all at long-term king-side attacking. So the opponents of those programs >>won't have to be good at defending against king side attacks. If they happen >>to not know how to do this, so what, since their opponents won't do it anyway. >> >>But put 'em on the board with a good GM/IM and see what happens.
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