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Subject: Re: Are comments about Crafty 16.6 to harsh or just accurate observations?

Author: Michael Neish

Date: 19:08:43 01/10/00

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>  Obviously there is a atmosphere created at CCC to where any negative comment
>said about a specific program, however honestly made is misconstrued as an
>attack on the programmer. I think this is rediculous. Personally I think the
>article concerning crafty was extremely accurate.  Crafty is not in the same
>class as the top commericial programs, This however does not mean that crafty
>sucks. Crafty is a strong master level program, but it falls short of the
>commericials.  The truth is the truth, doesn't mean you don't like the
>programmer or are baised against the program.

I agree with you that criticism should not be construed as an attack on
the programmer.  But in some cases, as it seems to be in this one, the
original criticism seems to come from someone who already has "an axe
to grind" with Bob Hyatt (to borrow an oft-used phrase on recent Crafty-
related threads).  It's therefore not cold scientific criticism that
we're dealing with.

I am not qualified to comment on whether Crafty is or isn't as strong as
commercial programs, but it's unfair to post just one game from an old
version and say that Crafty doesn't understand piece mobility.  Doesn't
this indicate bias?  The original article that sparked off this
discussion was equally careless.

Not to mention that it's one thing to say that a program isn't as
good as commercial alternatives and quite another to say "it doesn't
understand piece mobility" when a short number of games cannot prove
it one way or the other, and a quick peek at the source code will
show you that it's incorporated in the evaluation routines.

And maybe Crafty is a bit of a sensitive area, since people who
appreciate Bob's generosity in making the source code entirely
open and sharing his ideas with everyone (a rarity indeed) are
likely to rally behind him when during difficult times! :)

Mike.





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