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Subject: Re: Anand comment about Deep Blue

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:59:11 01/11/00

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On January 11, 2000 at 22:24:25, David Blackman wrote:

>On January 11, 2000 at 21:46:38, Roger wrote:
>
>>Excerpt from the interview:
>>
>>"For instance, if you were to remove the database, you can
>>have a computer ten times faster than it is today. Ten
>>times faster than Deep Blue, easily. If it couldn't
>>consult its opening book, my result would improve
>>immediately. I think most of the top twenty, thirty
>>players could beat Beep Blue if it wasn't allowed to
>>consult an opening database. Or, even the opening
>>database is restricted to a certain size. What happens
>>is, their opening database is almost 400-500 MBs of
>>information. It has access to all the games that are
>>played but we have to remember all that. Or, if I am
>>allowed to have a computer with me, okay, I can't check
>>my thoughts but I can see what was played at any given
>>time. My result would then go up."
>>
>>I think he's wrong about having a computer ten time faster than Deep Blue
>>without the opening database.
>>
>>Still, what to make of the comment that the top twenty or thirty players could
>>beat Deep Blue if deprived of its open database?
>>
>>Roger
>
>He is greatly over-estimating the importance of the openning database, for Deep
>Blue at least. Maybe the top 20 or 30 could beat Deep Blue, maybe not. Certainly
>any of them against Deep Blue would be a tough match. But Deep Blue with no
>opening book at all would still be almost as tough. And Deep Blue with a small
>well chosen opening book of ten thousand positions, would probably be slightly
>tougher than Deep Blue with a monster database, at least for the first few
>games.


Don't forget that Kasparov played a couple of oddball openings to take DB out
of book very quickly.  The tricks didn't result in wins...



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