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Subject: Re: A New Issue for Computer GM Followers

Author: odell hall

Date: 20:32:07 01/11/00

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On January 11, 2000 at 22:39:35, Lanny DiBartolomeo wrote:

>On January 11, 2000 at 22:19:23, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>On January 11, 2000 at 21:41:01, Leon Stancliff wrote:
>>
>>>  In my opinion the question as to whether the top microcomputer programs can
>>>play at grandmaster level has been answered. The average rating for the
>>>opponents of Rebel Century in the twenty games actually played was 2510 Elo. The
>>>average Mhz rating of the computers was 498. Rebel won by 11-9 which gave it
>>>55%.
>>>  The point differential for 55% wins is 35. When we add 35 points to 2510 we
>>>have 2545 Elo. Rebel Century does play at grandmaster level. The question now
>>>will become, "Where does the top micro program rate among the world list of
>>>grandmasters?"
>>>  An Elo rating of 2545 would place Rebel Century at the 219th position out of
>>>652 living grandmasters. This places the program in the top third of the GM
>>>list. The only real live question now is "How long will it be before the top
>>>computers will among the top one hundred?" Will it happen within three years?
>>
>>
>>But were these grandmasters very strongly motivated? and were they as
>>experienced against computers as people on their level ever will be?
>>S.T.
>
>No G.M. likes to lose, I hate loosing I am sure they do more so (most anyway)
> there was money envolved not a real lot but enough for them play 1 game hard
>,and since they all waited to play only 1 game I am sure you get their full
>efforts.
> They must have wanted to see how well their preperations paid off, and I am
>sure most was  curious to see just how tough this program is. As far as "and
>were they as
>experienced against computers as people on their level ever will be?" My
>question,
> Are programs as well "adapted" to play against these GMs as they will ever be?
> Also what if same games were played on 800mhz? Or correctly implimented opening
>book?
>  Truthfully I thought it would be wonderful to be able to play against it if it
>was 2450 40/2, anything else is GRAVY :)))


  I agree lanny!! although i think it's pretty clear that they are playing GM
chess now! If rebel can achieve a 2490 rating under the impossible conditions of
the GM Challenge. Then it would most likely score a hundred points better under
normal conditions, playing a variety of elo levels.



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