Author: Rajendran Ramachandran
Date: 12:44:47 01/12/00
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On January 11, 2000 at 22:43:09, James Robertson wrote: >On January 11, 2000 at 22:24:25, David Blackman wrote: > >>On January 11, 2000 at 21:46:38, Roger wrote: >> >>>Excerpt from the interview: >>> >>>"For instance, if you were to remove the database, you can >>>have a computer ten times faster than it is today. Ten >>>times faster than Deep Blue, easily. If it couldn't >>>consult its opening book, my result would improve >>>immediately. I think most of the top twenty, thirty >>>players could beat Beep Blue if it wasn't allowed to >>>consult an opening database. Or, even the opening >>>database is restricted to a certain size. What happens >>>is, their opening database is almost 400-500 MBs of >>>information. It has access to all the games that are >>>played but we have to remember all that. Or, if I am >>>allowed to have a computer with me, okay, I can't check >>>my thoughts but I can see what was played at any given >>>time. My result would then go up." >>> >>>I think he's wrong about having a computer ten time faster than Deep Blue >>>without the opening database. >>> >>>Still, what to make of the comment that the top twenty or thirty players could >>>beat Deep Blue if deprived of its open database? >>> >>>Roger >> >>He is greatly over-estimating the importance of the openning database, for Deep >>Blue at least. Maybe the top 20 or 30 could beat Deep Blue, maybe not. Certainly >>any of them against Deep Blue would be a tough match. But Deep Blue with no >>opening book at all would still be almost as tough. And Deep Blue with a small >>well chosen opening book of ten thousand positions, would probably be slightly >>tougher than Deep Blue with a monster database, at least for the first few >>games. > >We really don't know that. Our speculation (and it is merely speculation) will >not be as good as Anand's speculation. Plus, many other GMs (Seirawan, for >instance) have already said exactly what Anand just said. > >James James, You seem to be realistic. There are people here, who claim to know more about chess than Anand and Seirawan put together! Well! Just as calculators are allowed inside examination halls nowadays, computers ( may be equal strength ) , programmes ( may be one champion prog or a side_kick freeware programe), opening database, endgame database etc may be allowed in a chess tournament oneday! Just use these as tools and show us what YOU can do? These are TOOLS made by human beings for humans. Oneday when these TOOLS prove too good they will be USED by humans......Until then the arguments will continue.... raj
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