Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 13:10:39 01/14/00
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On January 14, 2000 at 13:18:37, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On January 14, 2000 at 12:17:49, Pete R. wrote: > >>On January 14, 2000 at 03:21:14, Ed Schröder wrote: >> >>>>Posted by Robert Hyatt on January 13, 2000 at 23:31:57: >>> >>>[ snips ] >>> >>>>There are some things above that are very suspicious. At the top of the >>>>response, he directly quoted Hsu. But after the beginning, no more quotes >>>>to support his less than savory description of Hsu's actions. I find this >>>>troubling. If he would quote him at the beginning, then couldn't he quote >>>>some of his "belligerent" comments as well? >>> >>>Maybe Mr. Williams has manners? >> >>Maybe so, maybe not. I don't know either party, but frankly I find his letter >>insulting and in poor taste. Not only that but it's defamatory, while Hsu's >>letter is not. I don't know Hsu from Adam, but Mr. Williams' letter clearly >>paints his character in a bad light and tries to sway the reader that he is some >>sort of jerk. His only defense against a lawsuit Hsu could bring for this would >>be the truth, i.e. he has to support his statement that Hsu's emails were >>belligerent and threatening, and support his interpretation that he was going to >>make comments on Kasparov's behalf, and so forth. The reader can't decide >>unless the emails are published. And I agree with Dr. Hyatt that it's >>suspicious already that Mr. Williams does not already support this with >>quotations. If I were Hsu, and *if* Hsu is innocent of the behavior painted by >>Mr. Williams, the next phone call Mr. Williams would get would be from my >>lawyer. You are free to have an opinion as to the relative character of Mr. Hsu >>vs. Mr. Williams, but it would be wiser to refrain from public comment, though >>that choice is yours. Personally I would like to see the email exchange myself >>rather than rely on other people's opinions. > >Instead of a big scientific discussion, what about a short >buiseness discussion? > >Sure, personally i would LOVE such a match happening. However i can't >afford Kasparov and i clearly realize that. I can't afford a single GM >even. I'm lucky some play a few blitz games against it at the internet. > >Now we see a person called Hsu. Why not first make a program, >start hacking it up to the internet, then start thinking of these things? You overlook $$$s. It costs money. If I wanted, I _could_ go out and by myself an airplane. But it would mean I would do without a lot of other things I would rather have. So "why not first make a program" becomes "why not first spend a lot of money to ...". And in that light, the answer is "because it is not sound financial reasoning." > >Kasparov gets questions like this every day: "let us sign some contracts, >then i go try find some money with your signature". > >Perhaps 10 times a day? > >Sure not every day from Hsu, but Kasparov is a professional chessplayer, >not a professor who is there to do research and help students. > >I'm sure Hsu can dedicate easily another 6 months to building *a* machine. >In a letter Hsu says he doesn't need more money to make it even. excellent. I don't need help to buy that airplane either. Or a house on the ocean. But _will_ I do so? No. It doesn't make financial sense. Big difference between "could" and "should" here... > >Then he can show something. In USA internet is for free in contradiction >to europe. for a few dollar he can hack it up to the internet chess >server, i'm sure of that. > >A promise IBM has never kept, probably fearing other computers. _very_ doubtful. They probably fear the one loss every 100 games, with resulting misstatements claiming "we beat Deep Blue"... > >Now then he has something to show his sponsors > > - i've got a machine > - see how it plays > >Right now he can only show a bit of dusty paper. > >First play a cheap 2700+ GM for example. Now IF it wins, then go on >and try to achieve the big price. > >Of course if Hsu doesn't believe in his new machine he sure won't play >other GMs. > >Vincent "doesn't believe" yet he bet his career on it? Har de Har Har. :)
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