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Subject: Re: Kasparov's manager answers Hsu

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 19:36:34 01/14/00

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On January 14, 2000 at 22:32:40, James Robertson wrote:
>On January 14, 2000 at 19:53:34, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On January 14, 2000 at 09:31:43, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>On January 14, 2000 at 02:20:09, James Robertson wrote:
>>[snip]
>>>>I find it impossible to believe that he is the only human who is capable of
>>>>doing this.
>>>
>>>Think about this:  How long did it take him to become able to do this?  At
>>>least 12 years.  How long would it take someone _new_ to catch up to his
>>>skills at this?  About 12 years.
>>
>>I think "anyone could have done it" is a bit of a reach.
>
>Who's quote is this? It certainly isn't mine.
Hyperbole on my part, certainly.  What was said was:
"I find it impossible to believe that he is the only human who is capable of
doing this."
which implies that others are able.

>>There are two reasons
>>that I say this.  First, nobody else *did* it with the success that he had.  If
>>they could have, why didn't they?
>
>$$$
Has the financial reward suddenly vanished?  If another machine came along and
could successfully challenge Kasparov and/or Deep Blue would it fail to garner
the interest of people?  I suspect it might even be more monumentous.

>>
>>The second reason is that 'could have' does not connect with 'would have.'
>>For instance, Bill Pugh invented the skiplist in the 1980's.  Hoare invented
>>quicksort in the 1960's.  The concepts are simple.  Many people "could have"
>>invented those things.  But they didn't.  Why not?
>>
>>* Lacked effort
>>* Lacked interest
>>* Lacked time
>>* Lacked money
>>* Lacked <whatever>
>>
>>If the Laser and Teflon had not been invented by their inventors would we have
>>found them by now?  Probably, but maybe not.  In any case the proof of the
>>pudding is in the eating.  Hsu's pudding was the best tasting ever, unless you
>>happen to be Kasparov.  Apparently, he's not in any big rush for a second
>>helping.
>>;-)
>>
>>
>>[snip]
>
>This is the wrong way to look at it. There is _one_ way to make Teflon. There
>are unlimited possibilities for a chess computer. Just because Hsu invented one
>way does not mean there are not many many other ways.

Still waiting for someone to come up with one of the alternatives....



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