Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 21:38:38 01/14/00
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On January 14, 2000 at 22:55:07, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On January 14, 2000 at 09:17:26, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On January 14, 2000 at 02:52:39, Les Fernandez wrote: >> >>>Does anyone here have a ball park idea as to how much money Hsu needs to atleast >>>develope this chip? Has he already developed the new version and is the issue >>>about the cost for manufacturing the chips? Does anyone have a projection as to >>>the time frame for this development. Perhaps someone out here has a better link >>>to Hsu or has spoken to him that may be able to supply some of these answers. >>>Forget about prize money, sponsors etc just specifically Hsu's cost for >>>development. Just curious what kind of numbers we are looking at here? >>> >>>Les >> >> >>I really don't, myself, never having gone thru the process from front-to-back. >>But I would suspect that it is not something a private individual could do, >>unless that person owns a few oil wells or something. :) > >No idea how expensive pressing the cpu in large masses is, >but the designboards are like >a few thousands of dollars, then some tens of dollars a prototype. >the problem is the expensive software, >but perhaps he has still a backup of what he used at ibm's, or bought that >with the blueprints from ibm. > >Pressing something in the latest technology (0.18) is of course more expensive >than the outdated 0.60 micron deep blue technology (even at 1997 that >was already considered old). With some luck he can get a few of those >old things for free as it gets thrown away otherwise. > >Vincent There are no "design boards". This is all done with "silicon compilers" and software design tools. No jumpers, gates and stuff as is done in student lab assignments. There is an industry-defined specification language for the ASIC fab process. And there are tools to take such a specification and "execute" it for testing before going to fab...
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