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Subject: Re: Kasparov's manager answers Hsu

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 12:36:15 01/15/00

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On January 15, 2000 at 12:16:12, James Robertson wrote:

>>that is the _wrong_ question.  The right question is "If someone else wanted
>>to continue the deep blue project _today_ how long would it take them to catch
>>up to the point where Hsu is?  While Hsu is off doing a new machine by himself
>>without IBM involved?  I claim 12 years +or longer+...
>>
>>And during that 12 years, Hsu would also have 12 years.  He would not be
>>caught, most likely...
>
>If they started _today_, they would have Hsu's previous work to work with,
>unless the terms of his contract prevent anyone from ever accessing his
>research.
>
>But that is not really the point. I think the discussion started over whether or
>not another person or team of people could have created a supercomputer
>comparable to Deep Blue.
>
>James


No.. they would have a netlist for the two deep blue processor designs he did
while at IBM.  They would _not_ have any idea about _why_ something was done.
Or why it was done the way it was done.  They would not have any idea about
what else is left in the chip.  Hsu mentioned that they used about 50% of the
evaluation hardware in the match they won.  There is more left.  He is the
only one that knows what is there.

Can you imagine taking a chess program, machine language only, and trying to
figure out how it did what it did?  That would be far easier than taking a
chip design and understanding it...

And you obviously have to understand it before you can start working on the
next design step.



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