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Subject: Re: Which Comercial Program Best Plays Like a HUMAN Master?

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 16:44:13 01/18/00

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On January 18, 2000 at 18:36:30, Heiko Mikala wrote:

>On January 17, 2000 at 12:57:26, James A. Tackett wrote:
>
>>  As a long time purchaser of many chess programs, I am most interested in the
>>playing style of the program rather than its objective strength.  I would like
>>to here opinions on which comercial chess program comes closest to playing like
>>a HUMAN master.
>
>The question of course is, how you define the difference between the playing
>style of a human master and a "typical" chess program.
>
>If your main criterion is long range planning, than my answer would definitely
>be MChess Pro.
>
>After watching hundreds or maybe thousands of games with and between chess
>programs, MChess Pro has become my favourite program concerning playing style.
>It is the only program, that makes you believe long range planning is really
>involved. You will very often see it slowly moving it's pieces into attack
>positions, transferring them to the king side, trying to control the diagonals
>too and then suddenly launch the attack. This becomes even more evident, if you
>watch it's main lines and evaluations. Watching it's main lines, you can see
>that it really plans to put it's pieces into good positions. Watching it's
>evaluations, you can see, that it not only moves it's pieces into good positions
>by accident, but that it understands what it does and sees the advantage of
>doing so. You can often see it's evaluation go higher and higher, the better
>it's pieces are developed, while the evaluations of it's opponents stay low. And
>you can see, that it doesn't give high evaluations for tactical chances only,
>but for positional advantages and attacking abilities.
>
>For MChess Pro, at least 1 of every 2 games is a real thriller, mostly with
>furious king attacks, and most of the time these thriller games are convincing
>wins for MChess, where the opponent didn't have a clue of what was going on,
>until it's too late. Of course, sometimes these attacks fail, but then you will
>often see nice wins by the opponents, making the games still very enjoyable. And
>of course not every game shows the above mentioned long range planning, because
>it takes two to play a game, and the opponents are strong too :)
>
>If I say that at least 1 of every 2 MChess Pro games is a thriller, than I
>should mention, that in my opinion this a lot compared to other programs, where
>only 1 out of 5 or 1 out of 10 games is really interesting.
>
>Another very interesting program in this regard is CSTal (I and II), which has
>been mentioned by others too. But the difference between these two is, that
>CSTal most often only shows it's brilliance against weaker opponents (where you
>will see really super-brilliant games!), but is often not able to play so
>brilliant against equally strong or (maybe) stronger opponents.
>If you'd like to see CSTal in action, you could have a look at FICS, where it
>played using the handle "TheComputer" IIRC. I don't know, if it's still there,
>this was some months ago. But there it showed, that it can play brilliant blitz
>games too, I've seen some very exciting and interesting games played by it
>there.
>
>Another interesting program (concerning playing style) seems to be Nimzo 7.32,
>but it's not so much the long range planning, but more the sometimes wild play
>that makes it's style so amusing. On the other hand, I've seen some horrible
>games by Nimzo 7.32 too, that didn't look like a human master at all. Still,
>Nimzo 7.32 plays very refreshing and is definitely one of the strongest. I'm not
>sure, if one can describe Nimzo's style human like, I guess in most of the games
>this is not the case. But some of it's games definitely are.
>
>Rebel Century plays very, very nice and interesting too, nearly always marching
>forward, not so much looking for tactical chances, but more for positional
>advantages. Still it's playing style is a lot different to that of MChess Pro
>and CSTal, and I consider MChess's style to be a bit more human like than
>Rebel's style.
>
>There are a lot of other programs, playing very exciting chess, but for
>different reasons. Your question was for human (master) like style, so I'll stop
>here, because I consider the above mentioned programs to be most human like (and
>I guess I've written more than anyone would read anyway ;-)
>
>
>Greetings,
>
>Heiko.

If all what you say about m-chess pro is true, then how can it not turn
out to be the the strongest program?



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