Author: walter irvin
Date: 08:14:42 01/19/00
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On January 18, 2000 at 18:42:37, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On January 18, 2000 at 18:19:48, george petty wrote: > >>On January 18, 2000 at 16:54:46, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On January 18, 2000 at 15:35:06, george petty wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Tom, I think there still too many open questions out there that we do not know >>>> the answers to yet. Now do you really think he is a idiot (and a jerk)? You >>>> being a programmer, and having a top program, do you think some of his logic >>>> could have some possibilty, that something fishy may have occured? Right now >>>> I don't know, and I question, what do we know are the real facts, not opinions. >>>> I still think if I.B.M. had came out with the printouts first, there would not >>>> be so much distrust of I.B.M. or Kasparov having any grounds to cry. Just a >>>> thought. But to keep an open mind and watch. I think the TRUTH will come out >>>> sometime with all these outstanding minds, looking everything so close. >>> >>> >>>I think if IBM had produced the printouts Kasparov would have _still_ tried >>>the same excuses. "they doctored them to say what they wanted". >> >> Bob, if they had released them immediately, a lot of these things would never >> have came up. To say that Kasparov would have still tried the same excuses, >> seems to me, as not being very fair and extremly biased against Him. > >Not nearly so unfair as to take the group that built a chess machine that >did what no other has come close to doing, and right after they accomplish what >we _all_ were saying was impossible, to accuse them of 'cheating' to do this, >was simply _very_ ugly. So how is my suspecting that he would have found other >things to complain about worse than what he did in the _first_ place. No >evidence. Just got his tail kicked and then resigned in a drawn position that >he overlooked. And he accused deep blue of cheating? :) > > > >> >> They could have been doctored up, we don't know yet. > >There you go... right out of Kasparov's mouth. Always assume the DB guys >cheated... never assume Kasparov just prepared poorly and screwed up as a >result. > > > >> >> "They had >>>no 'chain of evidence' to make sure they were observed at all times." Etc. >>> >>>If someone wants an excuse, they can _always_ manufacture an excuse. Whether >>>it makes technical sense or not. >> >>Thats true of both parties. Why should we take one side over the other, until >>we get more FACTS and not OPINIONS? > > >Innocent until proven guilty is the reason. > >Nothing more needs be said. there is something else that needs to be said ,how could deep blue cheat , it is imposible . 1.kasparov is the strongest human chess player (ok maybe fischer)so any human they would have used would have been weaker than kasparov or deep blue . now if you can explain that away and it cant be explained away .the bottom line is kasparov is unsure if he can beat deep blue so why risk it .
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