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Subject: Re: Was the question to difficult??

Author: walter irvin

Date: 08:14:42 01/19/00

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On January 18, 2000 at 18:42:37, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On January 18, 2000 at 18:19:48, george petty wrote:
>
>>On January 18, 2000 at 16:54:46, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On January 18, 2000 at 15:35:06, george petty wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tom, I think there still too many open questions out there that we do not know
>>>> the answers to yet. Now do you really think he is a idiot (and a jerk)? You
>>>> being a programmer, and having a top program, do you think some of his logic
>>>> could have some possibilty, that something fishy may have occured? Right now
>>>> I don't know, and I question, what do we know are the real facts, not opinions.
>>>> I still think if I.B.M. had came out with the printouts first, there would not
>>>> be so much distrust of I.B.M. or Kasparov having any grounds to cry. Just a
>>>> thought.  But to keep an open mind and watch.  I think the TRUTH will come out
>>>> sometime with all these outstanding minds, looking everything so close.
>>>
>>>
>>>I think if IBM had produced the printouts Kasparov would have _still_ tried
>>>the same excuses.  "they doctored them to say what they wanted".
>>
>> Bob, if they had released them immediately, a lot of these things would never
>> have came up. To say that Kasparov would have still tried the same excuses,
>> seems to me, as not being very fair and extremly biased against Him.
>
>Not nearly so unfair as to take the group that built a chess machine that
>did what no other has come close to doing, and right after they accomplish what
>we _all_ were saying was impossible, to accuse them of 'cheating' to do this,
>was simply _very_ ugly.  So how is my suspecting that he would have found other
>things to complain about worse than what he did in the _first_ place.  No
>evidence.  Just got his tail kicked and then resigned in a drawn position that
>he overlooked.  And he accused deep blue of cheating?  :)
>
>
>
>>
>> They could have been doctored up, we don't know yet.
>
>There you go...  right out of Kasparov's mouth.  Always assume the DB guys
>cheated...  never assume Kasparov just prepared poorly and screwed up as a
>result.
>
>
>
>>
>> "They had
>>>no 'chain of evidence' to make sure they were observed at all times."  Etc.
>>>
>>>If someone wants an excuse, they can _always_ manufacture an excuse.  Whether
>>>it makes technical sense or not.
>>
>>Thats true of both parties. Why should we take one side over the other, until
>>we get more FACTS and not OPINIONS?
>
>
>Innocent until proven guilty is the reason.
>
>Nothing more needs be said.

there is something else that needs to be said ,how could deep blue cheat , it is
imposible .
1.kasparov is the strongest human chess player (ok maybe fischer)so any human
they would have used would have been weaker than kasparov or deep blue .

now if you can explain that away and it cant be explained away .the bottom line
is kasparov is unsure if he can beat deep blue so why risk it .



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