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Subject: Re: Deep Thought's rating during the race for the Fredkin prize

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:37:41 01/22/00

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On January 22, 2000 at 12:37:42, Chris Carson wrote:

>Dr, Hyatt
>
>Out of this list, which games were for Fredkin?  I am still
>adding some US open games, I am going through pgn files.
>
>Also, I did not find the "Hall of Fame" tournament in my
>Monty Newborn books "How Computers Play Chess" and
>"Kasparov vs Deep Blue".  Do you have a resource I can get
>the information from?
>
>May-88	Fredkin88	Sprague	????	DT-0.01	ASIC	1	2571	2387
>May-88	Fredkin88	Martinak????	DT-0.01	ASIC	0.5	2571	2387
>May-88	Fredkin88	Nedved	????	DT-0.01	ASIC	1	2571	2387
>May-88	Fredkin88	Reyes	????	DT-0.01	ASIC	1	2571	2387
>May-88	Fredkin88	Ivanov	????	DT-0.01	ASIC	0	2571	2387
>May-88	Fredkin88	Rao	????	DT-0.01	ASIC	1	2571	2387
>Aug-88	US Open	        Ivanov	????	DT-0.01	ASIC	1
>Aug-88	US Open	        Albert	????	DT-0.01	ASIC	0
>Nov-88	Toolworks	LeSiege	????	DT-0.02	ASIC	1	2745	2494
>Nov-88	Toolworks	Glicksman????	DT-0.02	ASIC	1	2745	2494
>Nov-88	Toolworks	Larsen	????	DT-0.02	ASIC	1	2745	2494
>Nov-88	Toolworks	Browne	????	DT-0.02	ASIC	0	2745	2494
>Nov-88	Toolworks	McCambridge????	DT-0.02	ASIC	0.5	2745	2494
>Nov-88	Toolworks	Salgado	????	DT-0.02	ASIC	1	2745	2494
>Nov-88	Toolworks	Fishbein????	DT-0.02	ASIC	1	2745	2494
>Nov-88	Toolworks	Silman	????	DT-0.02	ASIC	1	2745	2494
>Sep-89	Match	        Byrne	????	DT	ASIC	1
>Sep-89	Match	        Byrne	????	DT	ASIC	0
>Dec-89	Match	        Levy	????	DT	ASIC	1
>Dec-89	Match	        Levy	????	DT	ASIC	1
>Dec-89	Match	        Levy	????	DT	ASIC	1
>Dec-89	Match	        Levy	????	DT	ASIC	1
>Jan-90	Match	        Pfleger	????	DT	ASIC	0.5
>Jan-90	Match	        Pfleger	????	DT	ASIC	0.5
>May-91	Hanover	Grunberg????	DT II	ASIC	1
>May-91	Hanover	Bischoff????	DT II	ASIC	0.5
>May-91	Hanover	Lobron	????	DT II	ASIC	0
>May-91	Hanover	Bonsch	????	DT II	ASIC	1
>May-91	Hanover	Unzicker????	DT II	ASIC	0
>May-91	Hanover	Wahls	????	DT II	ASIC	0
>May-91	Hanover	Tischbi	????	DT II	ASIC	0
>
>Sorry the list is imcomplete, I am adding data, but
>a Literature Review takes time.
>
>Best Regards,
>Chris Carson
>
>I am not a B-Class player, I am a C-Class player
>and proud of it.  :)


I can't answer.  As the Fredkin was actually won three different ways at
the same time:  (1) official USCF rating of 2551;  (2) TPR over last 25 games
of almost 2600;  (3) TPR of best 25 game sequence of 2650.  I don't know which
one of the three was actually used (I think Berliner wanted to use 2551 as it
was the _lowest" and wasn't so far ahead of HiTech.

If you have access to Monty's book on the DB match, I think it had most if
not all of the DB vs GM results.  I will check next week.

And there is nothing wrong with being a C-class player.  It just means you
will have problems telling the difference between a IM and GM player, if you
are not given the names, just the games..

I don't think I could do it either...  Although I am pretty good at picking out
a computer from humans...



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