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Subject: Re: Shredder is World Champion, the rest is details

Author: Albert Silver

Date: 05:08:47 01/26/00

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On January 26, 2000 at 07:17:05, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>About being "World champion, the rest is details", it's a classic case of
>hypostatization, which is "to attribute real identity to a concept."
>
>1. We create a Swiss tournament of 11 rounds and name it World Championship.
>2. Program X wins the tournament and becomes World Champion.
>3. We are to believe that program X is the best because it is the World Champion
>and the rest is details.
>
>If this 11 round tournament would have given another name, for instance ICCA
>championship, steps 2 and 3 wouldn't cross anybody's mind.
>
>With this I don't intend to attack Shredder 4, Junior 4.6 or Fritz 3, all fine
>programs and none of them the best, but to question the meaning of a name.
>
>No human would become world champion after playing a total of 11 games in his
>life, and I don't think programs should either.
>
>Enrique

Not that I disagree with your arguments, but if one does create a championship
in which all participants are in agreement with (why participate if not?), then
I don't think you can discredit the winner with complaints about luck just
because you don't like the outcome. Why not just do away with the championship
and declare whomever one likes as WC? Everyone had their shot, and luck or not,
Shredder won. One may disagree that Shredder is the undisputed strongest program
available, but not that it is the WC.

                                      Albert Silver



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