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Subject: Re: Leko-Short (w/ diagram)

Author: Terry Presgrove

Date: 06:59:07 01/26/00

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On January 26, 2000 at 03:16:02, Paulo Soares wrote:

>On January 26, 2000 at 01:04:52, Terry Presgrove wrote:
>
>>On January 26, 2000 at 00:34:17, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>On January 26, 2000 at 00:11:06, Terry Presgrove wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 25, 2000 at 21:31:35, Peter Kappler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 25, 2000 at 21:04:07, Daryl Lakes wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>The following position is from todays game at the Corus tournament between Leko
>>>>>>and Short. After 41.Qe8+ Fritz 6, Junior 6, Rebel 10, Chessmaster 7000 all would
>>>>>>play 41...Kh7 after 10 minutes think time which loses to 42.Qe4+ and whites
>>>>>>q-side pawns will queen. Only Hiarcs 7.32 saw that Kh7 loses and it saw it
>>>>>>rather quickly. After about 1 minute it saw Kh7 loses and after about 7 minutes
>>>>>>it played Shorts Kh6.
>>>>>>Even though this is just one position I think it is an important one as it is a
>>>>>>type that can frequently come up. The programs need to see the danger of outside
>>>>>>pawn majorities even though it is outside of their 'horizon'
>>>>>>The above info is based on my PII 450 and 32 meg Hashtables.
>>>>>>I am curious if Tiger or Nimzo would play correctly in above position.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[D]4Q3/p1p3p1/6k1/2P4p/1P5q/5Pp1/P7/6K1 b - - id *Morozevic - *Short; bm g6h6;
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[Event "?"]
>>>>>>[Site "?"]
>>>>>>[Date "2000.01.25"]
>>>>>>[Round "?"]
>>>>>>[White "*Morozevic"]
>>>>>>[Black "*Short"]
>>>>>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>>>>>[ICCResult "Game drawn by mutual agreement"]
>>>>>>[Opening "Scotch game"]
>>>>>>[ECO "C45"]
>>>>>>[NIC "SO.05"]
>>>>>>[Time "06:56:23"]
>>>>>>[TimeControl "7200+0"]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Nxd4 Bc5 5. Nxc6 Qf6 6. Qd2 bxc6 7. Nc3 d6
>>>>>>8. Na4 Bb6 9. Bd3 Ne7 10. O-O O-O 11. c3 Qg6 12. Re1 Bh3 13. Bf1 Be6 14. c4
>>>>>>c5 15. b3 f5 16. e5 dxe5 17. Ba3 Rad8 18. Qc3 Nc6 19. Bxc5 Rfe8 20. Rad1 Rd2
>>>>>>21. Rc1 Rd3 22. Rcd1 Rxd1 23. Rxd1 f4 24. Re1 Bf5 25. b4 h5 26. f3 Bxc5+ 27.
>>>>>>Nxc5 Nd4 28. Nb3 Kh7 29. c5 Qg5 30. Nxd4 exd4 31. Qd2 Re3 32. Rxe3 dxe3 33.
>>>>>>Qd4 Bg6 34. g3 fxg3 35. h4 Qf5 36. Qxe3 Qf6 37. Bd3 Qxh4 38. Bxg6+ Kxg6 39.
>>>>>>Qe8+ Kh6 40. Qh8+ Kg6 41. Qe8+ Kh6 {Game drawn by mutual agreement} 1/2-1/2
>>>>
>>>>  My Fritz6a finds Kh6 instantly and also Crafty 17.04 about the same. Both
>>>>  using Tablebases. But I don't think they were utilizing TB probes. Running
>>>>  on K6-3 450 / Hash 128 MB.
>>>>
>>>>  TP
>>>
>>>I have fritz6a running on two seperate comps.
>>>One has access to F6 Tablebases, the other H732.
>>>Neither even look at the tablebases??.
>>>Neither finds Kh6 instantly??.
>>>On both tablebases is ticked in the engine options.
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Tablebase option is ticked in both comps.
>>>Thanks.
>>
>> I turned off TB's and Fritz finds in 1 second / Crafty in 2 or less. Looks
>> about the same with TB on.
>>
>> TP
>
>But FRitz6a, (or would it be Fritz6.88? I am confused relationship to the
>name of the version)  changes the move immediately for Kh7.
>Paulo Soares, from Brazil

 I had just received Fritz about 10 days ago. And Chessbase sent the
 Fritz6 upgrade like for everyone else. I'm not sure what is going on
 with this position. But Fritz6 (the one I have) finds almost instantly (K-h6).

 TP



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