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Subject: Re: Shredder is World Champion, the rest is details

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 07:27:44 01/26/00

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On January 26, 2000 at 07:17:05, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>1. We create a Swiss tournament of 11 rounds and name it World Championship.
>2. Program X wins the tournament and becomes World Champion.
>3. We are to believe that program X is the best because it is the World Champion
>and the rest is details.

>If this 11 round tournament would have given another name, for instance ICCA
>championship, steps 2 and 3 wouldn't cross anybody's mind.

you forget that markus, stefan and me have played lots lots of tournament
games with shredder against all kind of programs. we knew that shredder
kills them, from our results.
so for us it was no big thing that shredder won.
you can say: we knew that it would win.
it was clear: shredder or tiger.
since tiger is not good in swiss tournaments (plays more passive
in the latest versions)
the way was clear for shredder.

by telling us your usual ideas about statistics and
quantity stuff, you hide the real facts:
that shredder and tiger were the best programs
in that days, and that therefore it was no big surprise
that shredder won.

shredder killed all other commercial programs. only tiger
got 50%.

markus knew it. stefan knew it. christophe knew it. maybe a few others too.
i said it in gambit soft forum. and when somebody asked me in paderborn,
he could get the same information.

you should not try to make your own legends based on whatever
data.


>With this I don't intend to attack Shredder 4, Junior 4.6 or Fritz 3, all fine
>programs and none of them the best, but to question the meaning of a name.
>No human would become world champion after playing a total of 11 games in his
>life, and I don't think programs should either.

i completely have to critisize your statements.
they do in no way speak out the truth.

you completely retell us the "historical" facts in rearranged
order.
i wonder why !
is there any reason to change the point of view about the strength of
shredder/tiger ??



>Enrique



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