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Subject: The art of debate

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 13:49:47 01/26/00

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Everybody is wrong about things from time to time.

I once argued for 6 months about something before it finally sank in that I was
not correct.

I have no idea who is right or wrong about CPU cycles and Deep Blue.  I have
found that Bob does own up to mistakes.  Perhaps he simply does not see his
position as a mistake.  Could be that your EE background makes his position
sound odd to you.  Will someone without an EE background get the same weight
from EE based arguments?

I usually don't admit I am wrong until I understand that I am wrong.  That can
take some doing.

Conclusions can be faulty.  Remember that poor guy who came here with his FPGA
idea?  He pretty much got shouted down, and yet from what I have read on the
fpga Usenet group, the idea is actually feasible.  Sure, he blustered some, but
what seemed absurd may not necessarily be so when all the details are revealed.

There is nothing wrong with being wrong.  I like to say that, because I am wrong
a lot.  I do think it is a mistake to continue to hold an incorrect position
when I am clearly shown to be wrong.  But sometimes it takes me a while to
understand why I am wrong.

I don't think anyone will readily admit to having the wrong position without
understanding *why* the position is in error.

I have also seen that most of us are not good debaters.  We use all the wrong
techniques.  Faulty dilemmas, ad-hominem attacks, red-herrings, etc.

Sometimes, we know we are right and we really *are* right. [Isn't _that_
refreshing when it happens!]  But we must be able to communicate the reasons
effectively to be successful debaters.

Even correct debate from a rational standpoint that uses inescapable logic will
not always convince our audience.  That is a fact of life and repeatedly
demonstrated over and over.  But that is the best we can do, so we should try to
gain satisfaction from doing our best.

I find that when I get mad (which is pretty often) most of the time it is
because I am not sure of my position.  If I really am sure, I don't get all that
angry about it.  But when I have a nagging doubt, then I tend to react
emotionally instead of logically.  I should use that as a cue to myself, but
somehow, it usually escapes me.

"The time has come, the song is over.  Thought I'd something more to say."



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