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Subject: Re: DB just another program

Author: walter irvin

Date: 15:30:21 01/26/00

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On January 26, 2000 at 18:07:36, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On January 26, 2000 at 18:00:29, walter irvin wrote:
>
>>Deep Blue has great results to its credit but it has had great hardware .the
>>following programs at equal speeds are as good or better .
>>
>>1.cm 6000
>>2.fritz 6
>>3.junior 6
>>4.m-chess 8
>>5.shredder 4
>>6.tiger 12
>>
>>at equal mhz programs like fritz 6 would get more nps im sure .they would search
>>much deeper than deep blue .in computer vs computer matches speed kills , thats
>>why on the ssdf , programs on faster hardware get inflated ratings .
>
>We have heard this opinion before and it has been discussed recently.
>
>I hope nobody feels the need to reply to this post.
>
>-Tom

but i have proof

my proof is that the advantage deep blue had was A .lots of knowledge  B.speed

i will address knowledge first .knowledge is defeated by depth .an experiment
with Hitec was done where two versions of the program played vs itself .1
version had knowledge removed .at equal ply the version with knowledge won .but
when the the depth search was increased on the dumb one it won .so it was proved
that depth was more important than knowledge .i did the same experiment with cm
4000 with similar results .

with speed i said the program deep blue was average not the hardware .but if
given equal mhz the programs such as fritz ect with their much smaller eval
would be faster and get deeper and beat deep blue . i guess what im saying is
deep blue is 95% hardware 3% software 2% luck .




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