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Subject: Re: Shredder4 is overrated and weak!!!!

Author: Michael Neish

Date: 21:52:33 01/26/00

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On January 26, 2000 at 12:14:25, curtiss wrote:

>shredder 4.0 is very weak it is no where near the 2700,s like everyone is sayin
>it might be 2680 on tornument level

You know I've heard this time and time again, Shredder is weak, Shredder is
overrated, and I just wonder how the people who say this know that it is weak.
Are you going on any match results, or are you just repeating what many others
have said before you?

These matches would have to be pretty long, for as I'm always at pains to point
out, statistical variations are more important than people (apparently) think.
It would take many hundreds of games to know to a reasonable degree of certainty
which program is better (unless there is a big difference between them), and
even then you can never be sure.  Even after a long drawn out series of matches
from which one champion emerges, if you repeat the same matches all over again
chances are that a different one will win it (unless the winner is far far
better than the its rivals).  This argument can cut either way, I know; I'm just
emphasising the difficulties of finding out which one's best.  The best way to
judge a program might just be to observe how it plays, and therefore one would
have to be a pretty good player to analyse its style in detail, sort of ruling
out most of us.

Are you talking about scores in test suites?  On what are you basing your
assertions?  Really I'd like to know how people formed their conclusions that
"Shredder is weak".

Cheers,

Mike.







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