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Subject: Re: ICC Tourney (resign question)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 17:47:41 01/29/00

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On January 29, 2000 at 20:08:38, Will Singleton wrote:

>In my game today against Crafty, I resigned for Amateur in the following
>position:
>
>[d]1r1n2k1/1pNqbprp/p2p3Q/3P4/2R2p2/PP2pP1R/6PP/4N1K1 b - - 0 26
>
>Let's assume that an operator can resign for his program (I believe that's the
>usual case; nd in any case, no rules were established prior to the match).
>
>Given the fact the Crafty runs about 4 times faster than Amateur, and that I was
>showing a -3 score, and Hyatt had kibitzed a +4 score, and that Crafty had twice
>the time on his clock, and that Amateur was showing thru his pv that he didn't
>really understand how bad it was, I felt it was appropriate to resign.  Not
>doing so could have been construed as an insult to Crafty under the
>circumstances.
>
>Now, since I have no tournament experience, I'm asking, was it correct to
>resign?  If not, can you show me why?




It was probably better not to, right then.  Here is why.  Several years ago,
Cray Blitz was playing Deep Thought.  My eval was at -6, theirs was at +8,
and I asked Mike Valvo if it was OK to resign (at ACM events you have to
ask the TD for permission to resign to avoid rigging games.)  He said "play
on a while."  I asked "why, my eval is -6, DT is +8, we are dead."  He
responded "Look at the board, Bob."  I did, and at first I didn't get his
point.  The material was dead even.  He then said "most of these people
are just so-so chess players, watching the game, and they don't have a clue
that you are getting mashed.  Play until they can see that you are lost so
that there are no questions.

In today's game it appeared your knight is lost...  but at the time, I
think material was fairly even, crafty had a somewhat loose king position,
but also had a lot of pressure on the file against your king as well.  But
it wasn't clear to a casual observer (or even a strong chess player as one
pretty good one asked me about it).

There was nothing wrong with resigning, as you and I know.  But spectators
may have a different view, not knowing what was going on...



>
>This event was very exciting, btw.  Even had sweaty palms when I sacced the pawn
>to get the position.
>
>Will
>
>[Event "ICC 75 10 u"]
>[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
>[Date "2000.01.29"]
>[Round "-"]
>[White "Amateur"]
>[Black "crafty"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ICCResult "White resigns"]
>[WhiteElo "2314"]
>[BlackElo "2565"]
>[Opening "Sicilian: Canal-Sokolsky attack, Bronstein gambit"]
>[ECO "B52"]
>[NIC "SI.01"]
>[Time "15:32:45"]
>[TimeControl "4500+10"]
>
>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bb5+ Bd7 4. Bxd7+ Qxd7 5. O-O Nc6 6. c3 Nf6 7. d4 cxd4
>8. cxd4 Nxe4 9. d5 Nd8 10. Re1 Nf6 11. Bg5 e5 12. Bxf6 gxf6 13. Nc3 Rg8 14.
>Re4 Be7 15. Rh4 Qf5 16. Nb5 Kf8 17. Rc1 Rg7 18. Rcc4 a6 19. Nc7 Rb8 20. a3
>Kg8 21. Ne1 Qd7 22. Qh5 f5 23. Rh3 f4 24. b3 e4 25. f3 e3 26. Qh6
>{White resigns}
>0-1



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