Author: Bertil Eklund
Date: 00:14:32 02/01/00
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On January 31, 2000 at 18:48:28, blass uri wrote: >On January 31, 2000 at 16:49:41, Ed Schröder wrote: > >>On January 31, 2000 at 15:49:50, Thorsten Czub wrote: >> >>>>> It's fascinating that it >>>>>still is possible to increase the playing strength of chess >>>>>programs, measured in the way SSDF does. >>> >>>If you measure playing strength. i don't see you do. there is no >>>doubt that you measure something. >>> >>>>Impressive! >>> >>>no. not impressive. >>>wasting time. >> >>Oh come on. >> >>>>Congrats to Amir and Shay. >>> >>>true. >>>they have nothing to do with the ssdf-guys mistesting their program. >>>they cannot be blamed for it of course. >> >>Then what is the difference between your tournament and the SSDF? >> >>Ed > >1)The main difference is that his tournament is not tournament of long matches >so he does not count cases when program win the same game again and again. Hi! What is this for nonsense, he plays 10-12 games with each program, Enrique plays 100-150 and we play 300-1000 games, and you don´t see the difference. Thorstens tournaments is interesting but shows almost nothing and his comments shouldn´t we talk about. He also use computers with 64 mb Ram vs SSDF 128mb and Enrique 256mb. You must be blind or a virgin if you can´t see the differences. Why do you think his results of Fritz always is worse than CSTal. Of course you know it but instead you mumbles of the major difference, etc. >Thorsten does not measure the learning of programs in matches. > >2)There is a simple way to increase the "playing strength of chess >programs, measured in the way SSDF does". It´s not that easy. Typically we plays around 20 games with F3 P90 and F3 has a learner, Genius5 and McP6 also have learners. >You can simply autoplay many games against Fritz3(p90) and many commercial >programs tested by the ssdf and remember the winning games as part of the >opening book. > >I know nobody who does it but it does not change the fact that it is possible to >increase the ssdf rating significantly without improving the engine in this way. Nobody does this these days as you happens to know! Bertil SSDF >Uri
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