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Subject: Re: New SSDF-list!!!

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 16:18:06 02/01/00

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On February 01, 2000 at 11:57:56, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On February 01, 2000 at 11:06:30, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>
>>On February 01, 2000 at 00:43:26, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>What do you say about Fritz6 followed several weeks after by Fritz6a, and
>>>Junior6 followed by Junior6a?
>>
>>I think they shouldn't be tested separately either, and my understanding is that
>>they won't be.  Doesn't your original statement imply that there should be a
>>separate entry for Rebel-Tiger than for Chess-Tiger on the SSDF list?  That is
>>certainly how it reads to me.
>
>
>Yes, that's what I mean.
>
>Rebel-Tiger with the new improved setting is, I estimate, 20-25 elo points
>stronger than Tiger 12.0 DOS.
>
>If the SSDF melts the results of Tiger 12.0 DOS and RT+new_settings, we are not
>going to see much change in strength until they play more than 400 games with
>it.
>
>But it happens that these 20-25 points is the difference that has been measured
>between Tiger 12.0 DOS and our new #1, Junior 6. So this strength difference is
>of significant importance.

Maybe, maybe not.  They could also test a Junior 6.1 if it was marketed that
way, and it would be listed separately, and presumably also have a higher rating
than the Junior currently being listed.

>I don't see why asking to test them separately is so wild. Look at the SSDF
>list, you'll see that several programs of almost equal version have been tested
>as separate entities: Hiarcs 7 and Hiarcs 7.32, Nimzo 99 and Nimzo 7.32 for
>example.

Asking to test them separately isn't wild, but it does make a farce of your
promise.  You said "ok, I'm not going to change anything, go ahead and test",
and that #1 rank your program had for one list probably didn't hurt Tiger's
sales much, right?  Now, you're saying "re-test with a new entry".  FAPP, this
is trying to have your cake and eat it too.

>    Christophe

Dave



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