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Subject: Re: Recommended version of Visual C++?

Author: Poschmann

Date: 22:53:45 02/01/00

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On February 01, 2000 at 13:25:34, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On February 01, 2000 at 12:22:02, Mike Carter wrote:
>
>>I started writing a Visual Basic chess program but have decided to migrate to
>>C++.  Checking out Microsoft compilers, the Enterprise version of 6.0 seems to
>>be overkill (and at $1300 out of price range!).  Microsoft's Standard version of
>>C++ 6.0 is about $100 and the Professional version is $550.  Assuming I'm using
>>this to write chess code exclusively, is the extra $450 justified to move up to
>>Professional?  Or is another company (e.g. Borland) a better choice/value? (If
>>it matters, I have a Pentium II 400 MHz with 128Mb RAM and would eventually like
>>to port the program to WinBoard).  Many thanks in advance for your opinion!
>>
>>Mike Carter  (MrMike on ICC)
>>mcarter@tdi.net
>
>I have recently been in contact with someone who owns the "standard" edition.
>I'm not 100% certain, but it seems that this edition does NOT do optimizations.
>
>A compiler that does not do optimizations is a waste of money, because you can
>get GCC for free, and it does a respectable job of optimizing. VC does a better
>job, but not $550 better... :)
>
>Actually, VC has a decent IDE and a pretty good online help system; this may be
>worth $100 to you.
>
>I know I'm going to get flamed for saying this, but current Borland products are
>crap. They produce slow programs, and the IDEs are poorly implemented and
>totally bug-ridden. (To be fair, the last time I used a Borland compiler was 2
>years ago, and the situation may have improved since then.)
>
>-Tom

I am working with Borland Compilers for many years. The last absolute stable
version was BC5. BC3 was stable, BC4 was not.
In the current version of C++-Builder they joined the VCL (Visual component
library) from their Delphi-Compiler with the C++-Compiler. The new IDE contains
many bugs. About every one or two hours you must restart your compiler because
it crashes or become too slow. The compiler works slow and have memory leaks
(several ten thousand allocated memory handles after some hours by the compiler
itself).
But there are also good properties: You can create your own graphical user
interface very fast. The compiled program seems to be stable.
Maybe the problems are caused only by the heavy changed IDE and will be solved
in future versions.

If I could decide between several compilers I would take that which is mostly
used in the neighboorhood, to get help from others.
Ralf




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