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Subject: Re: Junior forfeits to Crafty!

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 09:42:07 02/05/00

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On February 05, 2000 at 12:40:24, Amir Ban wrote:

>On February 05, 2000 at 12:26:13, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On February 05, 2000 at 12:00:45, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>>
>>>Ban left the cct tourney, because Hyatt was censoring him. Actually, he seems,
>>>he left 3 minutes after Bob removed him his censor list. So junior will be
>>>forfeited and the round re-paired. Everybody is pissed at Ban.
>>
>>
>>Here is what happened:  About 3 months ago, Amir directly accused me of writing
>>code in crafty that was only there to 'abuse' the opponents.  IE playing on in
>>dead lost games, moving quickly to run the opponent out of time, etc...
>>
>>I absolutely do not do that, and I told him so.  He kept the claim alive.  I
>>told him that if he felt like that, then obviously he wouldn't want to play
>>a program that is that abusive (if you had seen his history on ICC, you would
>>have noticed that 90% of his games were against me, which is hard to understand
>>if my program was _so_ abusively written.)  I then told him here that I was
>>going to +censor him on ICC, that he could play anybody else he wanted.
>>
>>At 10:45 this morning, I saw him on and told crafty to tell him "I am playing
>>a game with diepx, but I will adjourn it right before start time."  I then
>>discovered that the "censor" was on (I had totally forgotten about it).  At
>>10:45 (15 minutes before the round started) I disconnected crafty, then logged
>>in myself and removed the censor for ban.
>>
>>I had also censored him but had forgotten about that as well.  Apparently
>>right around the time I was removing the censor, he logged on and told the
>>tournament channel that he wasn't playing until I apologized for the censor on
>>CCC.
>>
>>I'm _not_ apologizing, as _I_ didn't make the outrageous statement that I
>>had written crafty specifically to behave in an abusive way.  I had planned
>>on lifting the censor for the tournament game, and then put it back on, as I
>>won't play him with a program he claims is "abusive" until he retracts that
>>nonsense.
>>
>>That is all that I know.  I didn't see his tells in 164 as I was logged on as
>>Crafty removing the censor.  I have no idea what he said, specifically... and
>>see no reason to storm off in a huff.  He _knows_ why he was censored.  And
>>even if I had not remembered by 11am, a simple request to the TD could have
>>fixed the problem...
>>
>>That's all there is.  What happens next is anybody's guess.  It certainly does
>>screw up a lot of stuff for a lot of people.
>
>Much of this is grossly inaccurate, but never mind this now.
>
>Bob has been censoring me ever since the "snot" post he wrote here. For those
>who who don't know what ICC "censor" is, it means you don't play with the
>person, and do not agree to hear any message from him either. He's beneath you.
>
>I've been aware of it of course. Bob did not discover this. I did, 10 minutes
>before the game, that the censor is still on. I tried to talk to the TD, but he
>was not there. I wrote a message on the tournament channel, that my opponenet is
>censoring me, and I'm leaving. I said if he wants to play, he can apologize on
>CCC.
>
>I did not withdraw from the tournament. I clarified this to Bruce later. Bob can
>get a point for this game.
>
>Bob's post is not an apology, as he himself says. It's more in the tone of the
>posts that led to this.
>
>Amir



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