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Subject: Re: Q: Extrapolate the data

Author: Chris Carson

Date: 16:36:22 02/09/00

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On February 09, 2000 at 18:27:11, Mike CastaƱuela wrote:

>
>Next sunday is the minimatch (2 games, 1 hr per game)
>of Deep Junior vs. spansih GM Illescas.
>
>he has said that "It has a rating of 2700, a priori,
>I'm must be the victim,, but I trust in the experience gained
>working with Deep Blue-II, it must serve me well now".
>
>ClubKasparov assigns 2676 to DeepJunior based
>in games against humans (rapid and standard games).
>
>Q: If rating of PC programs (DJ as representative here)
>   is aprox. 3000 Elo in 5 mins. Blitz, and 2700 in 1 hr,
>   which is the rating to 2hr/40 moves?
>   (is GM strength, above of 2600, contradicting the
>    point of view of Prof. Hyatt?)
>
>Note: Its question not pretends start steril polemics,
>the question is by curiosity, experts, answer must be
>based in scientific data plus realistic perception.

Greetings.  Here are 20 games for Rebel 9/10/Cen.  All games
are 40/2 and against FIDE rated players.  Rebel rating for
the 20 games is 2553 (average GM is 2524).  If you will note,
Rebel posted a 2683 TPR for the 5 COPA tournament.  In my opinion,
the top 7 programs are GM strength on this speed HW and faster.

I agree with you, facts speak for themselves.  :)

Nov-97	3rd Copa Santos		2190	Reb 9	P-225		1
Nov-97	3rd Copa Pena		2330	Reb 9	P-225		1
Nov-97	3rd Copa Dominguez	2340	Reb 9	P-225		0.5
Nov-97	3rd Copa Mateo		2408	Reb 9	P-225		1
Nov-97	3rd Copa Hernandez	2320	Reb 9	P-225		1
Jul-98	Match	 Anand		2795	Reb 10	K6II-450	0.5
Jul-98	Match	 Anand		2795	Reb 10	K6II-450	0
Dec-98	4th Copa Dominguez	2340	Reb 10	PII-400		0.5
Dec-98	4th Copa Pinal		2330	Reb 10	PII-400		1
Dec-98	4th Copa Alvarado	2180	Reb 10	PII-400		1
Dec-98	4th Copa Fernendez	2180	Reb 10	PII-400		1
Dec-98	4th Copa Mateo		2415	Reb 10	PII-400		1
Dec-98	4th Copa Montes		2130	Reb 10	PII-400		0.5
Dec-98	4th Copa Jaquez		2220	Reb 10	PII-400		1
May-99	RGMC	 Rohde		2585	Reb-Cen	K6II-450	0
Jul-99	RGMC	 Sorin		2524	Reb-Cen	K6III-600	0.5
Aug-99	RGMC	 Rohde		2585	Reb-Cen	K6III-600	0.5
Sep-99	RGMC	 Hoffman	2501	Reb-Cen	K6III-600	0
Sep-99	RGMC	 Zapolskis	2399	Reb-Cen	K6II-300	1
Sep-99	RGMC	 Ruzele		2515	Reb-Cen	K6III-600	0.5

If you would like to see another 20 games that spand AEGON97
(40/90 + 30sec fisher) and the rest 40/2, Rebel has a TPR of
2608 with two performances above 2650.
see:  http://www.icdchess.com/ccc/message.html?96020

Finally, I have posted a list of all FIDE rated 40/2 games
for the micros by hardware.
see:  http://www.icdchess.com/ccc/message.html?94742

And I have correlated with SSDF:
see:  http://www.icdchess.com/ccc/message.html?95694

Best Regards,
Chris Carson



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