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Subject: Re: Q: Extrapolate the data

Author: Mike CastaƱuela

Date: 17:24:44 02/09/00

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On February 09, 2000 at 19:51:48, Chris Carson wrote:

>On February 09, 2000 at 18:27:11, Mike CastaƱuela wrote:
>
>>
>>Next sunday is the minimatch (2 games, 1 hr per game)
>>of Deep Junior vs. spansih GM Illescas.
>>
>>he has said that "It has a rating of 2700, a priori,
>>I'm must be the victim,, but I trust in the experience gained
>>working with Deep Blue-II, it must serve me well now".
>>
>>ClubKasparov assigns 2676 to DeepJunior based
>>in games against humans (rapid and standard games).
>>
>>Q: If rating of PC programs (DJ as representative here)
>>   is aprox. 3000 Elo in 5 mins. Blitz, and 2700 in 1 hr,
>>   which is the rating to 2hr/40 moves?
>>   (is GM strength, above of 2600, contradicting the
>>    point of view of Prof. Hyatt?)
>>
>>Note: Its question not pretends start steril polemics,
>>the question is by curiosity, experts, answer must be
>>based in scientific data plus realistic perception.
>
>I am just a "C" class USCF rated player, so my opinion is
>not worth much.  :)  Here is an opinion from IM Kaufman, I
>consider this person to be one of the leading experts in this
>field:
>
>"To fully appreciate just how strong Hiarcs 7 is, consider that its Swedish
>rating of 2567 was earned on hardware (200 MHz MMX) markedly inferior to the
>latest models (450-500 MHz). Moreover, the Swedish ratings are particularly
>severe, almost certainly more conservative than FIDE ratings and far below USCF
>ratings. These ratings are based on 40/2 games with other computers, with the
>overall level of the list based on games with human competition some years ago.
>Although I suspect that the level of the top computers may be a bit overstated
>now due to failure to recalibrate the list based on today's GM level computers,
>this should be offset by the severity of Swedish ratings in the past, so my
>guess is that the 2567 rating at 200 MHz would hold up in FIDE competition
>today, which would imply a FIDE rating over 2600 on today's fast machines. In
>other words, HIARCS 7 plays tournament chess on a par with the top five players
>in the U.S. This in turn implies that at action chess (game/30') HIARCS 7
>probably plays around 2700 FIDE level, on a par with the number ten player in
>the world, and should play blitz better than Kasparov, Kramnik, and Anand. "
>
>Source:  http://www.icdchess.com/wccr/software/Hiarcs7/lk.html
>
>I might add that the data strongly supports his statement.  :)
>see:  http://www.icdchess.com/ccc/message.html?96126
>
>Best Regards,
>Chris Carson

Many hanks to you and Dann by your response.

IM Kaufman says clearly "2700 at 30 min blitz.";
Now the quiestion is, how much decrease
as control time goes up to 2 hr?




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