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Subject: Re: J6 eliminats Illescas- What does Hyatt have to say?

Author: John Kilkenny

Date: 20:30:07 02/13/00

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On February 13, 2000 at 20:08:48, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On February 13, 2000 at 16:55:12, John Kilkenny wrote:
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>These are game/60 games.  It has already been proven that for game/60 type
>events, the computers are very difficult to beat.  This has _nothing_ to do
>with 40 moves in 2 hours with traditional secondary time controls...
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>>Then again, Hyatt does FULLY imho admit that comps are GMs in the audio
>>interview.  He say something to the effect " Well if you mean that a GM plays it
>>like a regular GM(in other words play REGULAR chess), then YES THEY PLAY GM
>>STRENGTH CHESS!  However once GMs learn their weaknesses they will be able to
>>beat them".  A shocking admission by Hyatt, because the arguement has always
>>been that Comps are GMs at regular chess play!  If GMs could learn the
>>weaknesses of Kasparov and Kasparov had no way to adjust for each opponent.
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>Nope, not at all.  Human gm's do _not_ have the same (obvious) weaknesses that
>computers have.  If a GM chooses to avoid these weaknesses, then he gets into
>trouble.  If he chooses to exploit these weaknesses, then he is going to do
>well.
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> He'd
>>get beaten like a drum too.  It would just mean that he isn't GM strength
>>against anti-kasparov play, though at regular chess play he would be.  In other
>>words in a blind test of say two players playing, where the Human didn't know
>>his opponent was a computer (example Allwerman case), and plays regular chess,
>>the comps will play at GM strengtho.  So at regular human vs human chess comps
>>ARE GM STRENGTH, something which has always been known by the enlightened and
>>now admitted to by the great prince of the "Comps are not GM" camp R. Hyatt.
>>  OF course if someone is able to know all of your weaknesses, and you can't
>>adjust or know all of that individuals weaknesses in particular, such an
>>opponent will have a major advantage.  Thus is the life of computer chess
>>programs.  This however, is irrelevant to the point that at comps are GM's at
>>regular chess play, when the human plays the comp as if it were a human.  So if
>>you released an "Allwerman-Cheater" on to the swiss system scene, and he was
>>able to quickly play in a large number of swiss events where GM norms were
>>available, all around the world he would quickly get the the norms required.
>>Hyatt's camp breaks to it's knees :)(Sorry had to add the drama at the end it's
>>been a long hard fight hahaha)
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>Another "troll" it seems...

Yes this is a troll that you are writing asshole



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