Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 08:42:47 02/17/00
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On February 17, 2000 at 11:33:33, Andrew Dados wrote:
>On February 17, 2000 at 11:24:51, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On February 17, 2000 at 11:21:15, Andrew Dados wrote:
>>
>>> In case of OTB tourney a player himself is responsible for showing up on time.
>>>Now, for internet-based tourneys, that may mean he can be forfeited if his ISP
>>>is down. However, since tourney organizers put effort into installing arbiter
>>>with each player during the game ('serious event'), that arbiter can see that
>>>player has shown on time and is ready for the game. In that case organizer
>>>should be held responsible for any alternate connection in case ISP is down
>>>(simply phone connetion would do here) or for rescheduling. Forfeit *should not*
>>>be granted if player is phisically on time and in the place where he's supposed
>>>to be and it's verifiable.
>>>
>>>-Andrew-
>>
>>At the world champs who was responsible in my case?
>>
>>The problem the first game was at an ISP somewhere in germany, NOT in paderborn,
>>and it was NOT my ISP.
>>
>>The problem the first game was elsewhere in paderborn, some dude had turned
>>OFF the computer in the weekend, and that computer was always inside my route
>>to the crafty machine.
>>
>>In both cases the organization nor me could be blamed.
>>
>>Yet i had to play a game... ...what do i do?
>>
>>It's a technical sport, just like motor and car racing. If your machine
>>is broke for whatever reason, then it's your fault simply. You can complain
>>loud on fora like these, but it doesn't change that you have a problem
>>during that game to find another machine.
>
>No... During WCCC you used a remote comp, so it was your sole responsibility for
>connection. You had an option provided by organizers to use their equipment (not
>a thrill, I know...). Here organizers took effort to place an arbiter 'on site',
>so organizers have to take every effort to make sure there is an alternate
>connection, since *both players were present and ready* for play at places they
>were supposed to be (you were 'not ready' to play on WCCC as I see it due to
>your choice).
Well the issue remains the same. Remote computer or remote connection,
there is no difference!
Suppose i play in a tournament and first a car hits me, then a second car
hits me. Still i try to get to the tournament hall, with an arm and a
leg less. Then a third car simply crushes me. I get to hospital.
Accident happens outside the tournament hall, but as i have a mobile phone
i can call and say that i'm delayed a bit.
What happens?
Well i can tell you what happens, because as one of the biggest clubs in
Netherlands we are confronted each year with a few of these cases.
You forfeit.
Vincent
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