Author: Bertil Eklund
Date: 08:43:10 02/20/00
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On February 19, 2000 at 11:24:28, Djordje Vidanovic wrote: >On February 19, 2000 at 08:27:04, Harald Faber wrote: > >>On February 18, 2000 at 14:14:01, Thorsten Czub wrote: >> >>>On February 18, 2000 at 12:41:54, Harald Faber wrote: >>>>Correct! The Athlon on which Tal played is 2.3-2.6x faster than the K6-200 on >>>>which Shredder4 played. >>>> >>>>Amazing result, isn't it? >>> >>>depends. shredder is world-chess-champion. what do you expect to happen ? >>>what a pity that harald did not test 2x athlon or at least 2 times >>>450 k6-2. >>> >>>so we do not know how much elo shredder is stronger on the 2.6 faster hardware. >>> >>>50 elo ? 70 ? 80 ? 100 ? >>>we don't know. >> >>Certainly s.th. between 50 and 70, not less. >> >>>i like matches on same machines. this makes it easier for me >>>to build a ranking. >> >>Correct. >>But my match is like playing progX/200-progY/450 in SSDF, where progX wins 13-7 >>which is already ELO(progY)+110. And no one denies that this difference will >>increase if the match would be with progX/450 instead of progX/200. > >CSTal is a great program, in the sense that it is a different program. It plays >exciting chess and is a lot of fun for me. I get to beat it more often than >other software but it is also more fun as it plays for a win with an almost >"human" wish to attack. Against humans, I would guesstimate its strength to be >about 2400 ELO. > >However, when compared with other programs, in this case Shredder, it stands no >chance in an extended match. I think that, had Shredder been assigned the >superior HW in this particular case, CSTal would have been lucky to score more >than a point or two out of twenty. Against computers, its strength could not be >more than 2350 ELO. > >All this said, I have to reiterate: I love CSTal. It stands for that great >romantic paradigm in chess and no program is even close. (Except for perhaps >the Super Constellation in the old days...) > >*** Djordje Hi! My guess is about 2450 on K6-2 450 and around 2500 on K6-3 450. Bertil
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