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Subject: Re: philosophy about "different ideas" and the outlaws of society

Author: Harald Faber

Date: 21:54:56 02/20/00

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On February 20, 2000 at 07:51:56, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On February 20, 2000 at 04:56:16Thorsten Czub wrote:
>
>>>On February 19, 2000 at 09:11:37, Harald Faber wrote:
>>
>>>>Correct. But do you expect the other commercials much weaker than Shredder?
>
>>>and yes - i do believe other programs are weaker than shredder.
>
>>I asked of MUCH weaker.
>
>the others are not much weaker. but it's enough to get 60-70 % for shredder.
>junior6a and tiger12 get maybe 50%.


A BIG MAYBE for me.


>>When will we see? Does anyone play or plan to play further matches, 20 games or
>>more, with Tal against Fritz, Rebel, MCP etc.?
>
>chris has told me in an email that he has given up computerchess.
>he get rid of people interested in the outcome of a game and not in how the game
>has been.
>therefore i think this will be the last tournament with cstal, since there will
>be never a new version of it.
>maybe i do those little matches for the "end".
>i am not sure. i am a little depressed that he gives up like nitsche gave up
>those old days.
>so - in the end you won harald. 1-0 !
>congratulation.


I never imagined to have such an influence. :-)
Seriously, there are many people who favour programs because of their style and
not (only) because of results. Count me to this group, or how would you explain
that the program with the most interesting playing style is MCP8 for me?
Here in CCC there were also several guys who declared Tal to one of their
favourites. SO this reason should not be true to give up computerchess.


>>That implies that you estimate Shredder approx. 120 pts over all competitors.
>>Absolutely wrong.
>
>?!? i don't see your logic harald. sorry.


No? It was so easy.
Shredder is ca. 180pts over Tal. So if you say the othe programs aren't stronger
than Tal, you imply that Shredder is 180pts over ALL other programs. This is
definitely wrong.


>>Vincent like Chris should change if they want to have a winning program. ;-)
>
>i am the opposite opinion.


No problem, everyone is free to have a different opinion.


>>No, they tell them that they can only TASTE the super taste if they come by
>>Mercedes.
>
>i don't think so. they can come with whatever car, or by feet. point is they
>have the money to pay.


I used this metaphor for the K6-3 you always demand for Tal as the Mercedes.





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