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Subject: Re: Multiple processors on one chip...

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:32:29 03/03/00

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On March 03, 2000 at 11:02:14, Brian Richardson wrote:

>On March 02, 2000 at 18:08:13, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On March 02, 2000 at 16:43:10, Brian Richardson wrote:
>>
>>>IBM's next-generation "Giga" processor (or Power4) due in 2001 will have 2-way
>>>onchip SMP.  Compaq has similar plans for Alpha.  Intel not next 2-3 years as
>>>far as I know.
>>
>>
>>Didn't Ncube already do this?  4 per chip?
>
>No, to the best of my recollection (TTBOMC?), Ncube was always an MPP (massively
>parallel) architecture, not SMP.  Generic Intel processors, and lots of
>them--funded by Oracle/Larry Ellision, but of course never worked as a general
>purpose commercial server, since Oracle DBMS has strong architectural affinity
>with the shared resources programming model.  I think Ncube has since evolved to
>target the video streaming market, where MPP is just  fine.
>
>I don't think we have seen on-chip SMP yet, although I suppose the old VLIW
>implementations were somewhat close, and certainly current superscalar
>processors with the ability to execute several instructions in parallel are also
>related, but not true SMP.


None of the intel machines beyond 8-way have been SMP machines (to the best
of my knowledge).  Machines like the touchstone, et al, were all clusters of
single-cpu machines using a message-passing interface.  Not shared memory.

I had thought that Ncube (another message-passing machine) used chips with 4
processors to build boards with 16 processors that they could plug into their
message-passing backplane for large numbers of processors...

But in any case, there are very few SMP machines with > 8 processors.  Dec and
Sun and SGI are the primary actors in this arena so far, and N is small (<= 32
so far).



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