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Subject: Re: what is the definition of a "Professional chess program" authors apprec

Author: Pete Galati

Date: 08:39:51 03/04/00

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On March 04, 2000 at 01:53:47, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On March 03, 2000 at 19:40:33, Pete Galati wrote:
>
>>On March 03, 2000 at 18:27:28, Drazen Marovic wrote:
>>
>>>On March 03, 2000 at 17:26:51, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 03, 2000 at 17:03:32, Drazen Marovic wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>what is the definition of a "Professional chess program" authors appreciated?
>>>>
>>>>The term "Professional chess program" implies that you could make a living using
>>>>that program.  Name one Chess program that would do that for you, a program that
>>>>could put bread on the table.
>>>>
>>>>If someone says "Professional chess program", they're probably confused, and are
>>>>probably refering to comercial Chess program, and that could be any program that
>>>>you have to pay for to own a copy.
>>>
>>>Well i don't really agree, various authors/experts such as Ed Shroeder refer to
>>>their programs as professional chess programs
>>>>
>>
>>This would be a problem with Ed's terminology.
>>
>>Pete
>
>I can't remember having said this but I am not completely sure. Anyway
>the term "Professional chess program" isn't that bad as:
>
>a) it sounds good :-)
>
>b) more serious: mass-market programs focus on the general audience while
>the so called "Professional chess programs" focus on the more serious
>chess player.
>
>IMO the best example is the CM series. Nice looking graphics, sounds etc,
>lots of fun but not my first choice when I want to analyze, want to improve
>my opening theory, maintain my databases.
>
>The term "Professional chess program" is a bit misleading definition. The
>man years spend in the CM series is perhaps a factor 5 or more in comparison
>with the programs we usually talk about here.
>
>Ed

I wouldn't argue your right to call Rebel "professional" Chess programs, I
certainly take your company more serious than Chessmaster.

I'm just not really sure how this term "professional" ever entered into the
picture.  Using you as an example, you can call yourself a professional
programmer, because you make your living as far as I know through your
programming, or maybe by managing your Chess program company, so that makes you
a professional, without a doubt.

The problem I see is when I see people calling Chess programs "Professional
chess program", why is that (?), because it's more serious than a Chess program
with fluffy graphics?  Ok, that may be true, but there simply is no business in
the world that I know of that relies on your having a Chess program of a certain
degree of seriousness.

True, many professional Chessplayers will use Chess programs as sparring
partners, or use their databases for research, but I don't really think that
puts those programs into the "professional" catagory, in other words, I don't
see the Chess programs as being an essential part of any business (other than
your own that is).

Was this term "Professional chess program" invented here at this forum by
accident?  I don't see how it applies to any of the commercial programs, other
than maybe indicating a degree of seriousness.

When Rebel ships a program to the distributer or customer, how is it labled?
Because, you said "I can't remember having said this" so I assume that Rebel
programs are _not_ labled "Professional chess program", not that I'd mind if
they were, it's just that I think it's a term invented here at CCC by someone
who didn't have a more correct term handy.

Pete



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