Author: Djordje Vidanovic
Date: 09:45:53 03/04/00
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On March 04, 2000 at 10:32:05, Thorsten Czub wrote: >On March 04, 2000 at 10:07:40, Ed Schröder wrote: >>Then you should have a closer look or check your Pc's. F6a is much >>better in tactics than F532. >> >>Ed > >you have to differenciate between FINDING moves faster >(fritz6 finds moves faster than fritz5.32 due to special >extensions) and really beeing stronger in tactics. > >beeing really stronger means: not to lose because of wrong tactics. > >finding tactics better means: having more extensions and find key-moves faster. > >example: > >Super-Forte B was better in tactics. >Super-Forte C was FASTER in finding key-moves but overall weaker in tactics >(I do guess Super-Forte C had more/better extensions). > >often people mix this up. > >because they run test suites and prg finds faster so they believe: >wow - it is stronger. but this is wrong. >it is only faster in finding key moves. >but this is not the thing you need for tactics in a game. > >when you see a program often oversee tactics in GAMES where no keymove >is, than this is IMO the real "better tactics". >test-suites do often not measure this behaviour. Hello there Thorsten, First a reminder: Americans have a saying about not teaching your grandmother how to suck eggs. Translated into this discussion, I don't think that you can exactly teach Ed Schroeder about tactics in a program. Ed is a top programmer who knows a thing or two about tactics, believe me. Second, I have to grant you that it is GAMES that prove the worth of a program, not tactics suites. Remember Lang's progs, they weren't the best in tactics but still ruled the world for quite some time. Well, as you are right there, do you believe that Fritz 5.32 could have placed so high as Fritz 6 did in Enrique's tournament (Cadaques)? My own testing with versions after Fritz 6 generic (i.e. 6.55, 6.66, 6.67 etc.) tends to indicate that Fritz 6.X is about 40-50 pts stronger than 5.32 in GAMES. BTW, I had a Novag Super Forte C machine and loved it! Those were the days. I actually had it before it was for sale in Europe or elsewhere as Novag sent it to me as an EPROM to replace my old Super Forte program which I dispatched to Hongkong... I had expected the B version but got the yet untested C... Hm. Sweet past. *** Djordje
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