Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 10:17:42 03/04/00
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On March 04, 2000 at 10:39:49, Thorsten Czub wrote: >On March 04, 2000 at 09:27:44, blass uri wrote: >>How did you compare it? > >by watching games. Maybe you can post 5-10 examples of your games to start with? Ed >>I think that the right way is to give the same positions from your games of >>Fritz6a that you guess that Fritz6a is weaker in tactics to Fritz5.32 and see if >>Fritz5.32 can see tactics faster. > >NO- test positions with definitive key moves do not measure this. >what test-suites measure is how good or how many extensions and search >tricks for key-moves programs have. but these nice magic tricks do not >work in chess-games. they only work for test-suites. > >>Impression based only on watching games can be wrong because it is possible that >>Fritz6a was unlucky to get positions that Fritz did not like in your games. > >when a program more than another program loses tactically ... > >>I know that Enrique claims that Fritz6a is the best in his secret tactical test >>suite. > >AND ?? this is not against me, this only proofs my point. >in test-suites fritz6a may be better, but a chess-game is more than a >test-suite. >don't you understand the difference ? > > >>If you have positions from your games when Fritz6a is weaker in tactics then >>please post them. > >you don't understand my point. you want to measure tactical behaviour and mix it >up with finding key-moves faster. these are 2 different topics. > >hiarcs e.g. is good in finding key moves. >shredder is weak in finding key moves. >cstal is good in finding key-moves but weak in tactics itself. >the king is good in both. >the king 2.2 was good in tactics. the king 2.54 was better in finding >key moves but weaker in tactics than the king 2.2. >MM5 was good in finding key-moves. better than many other 8-bit dedicated >machines. but not very good in tactics at all. >same for fidelity machines. > > >>Uri
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