Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 13:09:38 03/04/00
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On March 04, 2000 at 12:45:53, Djordje Vidanovic wrote: >Hello there Thorsten, > >First a reminder: Americans have a saying about not teaching your grandmother >how to suck eggs. Translated into this discussion, I don't think that you can >exactly teach Ed Schroeder about tactics in a program. Ed is a top programmer >who knows a thing or two about tactics, believe me. i am not teaching ed. this is no email group. i am talking open to all the others. ed knows exactly because he has experienced with extensions too in e.g. take mm4, mm5 and later polgar. especially polgar IMO did many capture-lines but this did not make it stronger IMO. mm5 often played very nice key-moves. but was IMO - like many of ed's programs - not a tactic-monster. but mm5 found many key-move in test-positions in those days. to all our surprise in those days. >Second, I have to grant you that it is GAMES that prove the worth of a program, >not tactics suites. Remember Lang's progs, they weren't the best in tactics but >still ruled the world for quite some time. Well, as you are right there, do you >believe that Fritz 5.32 could have placed so high as Fritz 6 did in Enrique's >tournament (Cadaques)? i did not followed this tournament in any way. >My own testing with versions after Fritz 6 generic (i.e. >6.55, 6.66, 6.67 etc.) tends to indicate that Fritz 6.X is about 40-50 pts >stronger than 5.32 in GAMES. since chessbase is not numbering their versions (or do they ? where ?) it is very difficult to follow this version dispute. i do only have the update of the so known 6 version called 6a. this is participating in my tournament. if matthias wants to let another version participate, he can send me the url or the version or whatever. i can only do as good as i can. so my objections come from watching fritz6a ... don't know which one this is. maybe you know. >BTW, I had a Novag Super Forte C machine and loved it! Those were the days. I >actually had it before it was for sale in Europe or elsewhere as Novag sent it >to me as an EPROM to replace my old Super Forte program which I dispatched to >Hongkong... I had expected the B version but got the yet untested C... Hm. >Sweet past. > >*** Djordje :-))) i wrote an article about the 2 in computerschach and spiele those days. i liked the super-forte C much.
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