Author: Melvin S. Schwartz
Date: 09:00:13 03/07/00
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On March 07, 2000 at 06:41:41, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>On March 06, 2000 at 11:31:44, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote:
>
>>This is a game I played on the Internet over six months ago. After I played Bh2+
>>my opponent did not resume the game and I was declared the winner. The position
>>is very dynamic and I wondered if my move was the best one. Since my opponent
>>never continued, I was left with looking at the possiblities myself. I gave this
>>position to various chess programs I had at the time and this is what they
>>played set at the tournament time control of 40/2
>>
>>Fritz 5.32 and Hiarcs 7.32 played Bh2+. Rebel 10 played Bxb2+.
>>
>>Now, since I have acquired some new programs since then, I decided to test
>>Rebel-Century, CSTal 2.03, and CM7000 in this position expecting nothing
>>different than what was played by the older programs. However, there was a
>>surprise.
>>
>>CSTal 2.03 played Bh2+, Chessmater 7000 played Bxb2+, but Rebel-Tiger played
>>Bf4+.
>>
>>While playing the game, my first instinct was to play Bf4+ to get rid of that
>>nasty Bishop. However, I was concerned about that Rook at g1 along with White's
>>Bishop at d3 and White's Queen at d1 all aiming at my King for a dangerous
>>attack, and so I decided to eliminate what I considered at the time to be the
>>biggest threat the Rook at g1. Therefore, when Rebel-Tiger came out with Bf4+ I
>>was surprised, though not disappointed for it appears to be alright. The
>>question I would like you to consider is which move do you think is best: Bf4+,
>>Bh2+, or Bxb2+? I would also be interested in what other programs besides those
>>mentioned by me have to say.
>>
>>Here is the FEN and hopefully a diagram of the position:
>>
>>[D] r1nqr1k1/pp3p2/3p2pB/1NpPb2n/2P5/3B3P/PP3P2/R2QK1R1 b ---Q 0 1
>
>My modified Crafty plays Bxb2+. It doesn't like Bh2+, and doesn't even play 2.
>...Bxg1 when searched. After 1. ...Bh2+ 2. Kd2 Bxg1 3. Qxg1, white has a
>dangerous potential attack on g6. Here's what it gives in this line after
>searching each subsequent position for several minutes, and playing the best
>move each time. Evaluations (for the side to move) and depth included:
>
>1. ...Bh2+ 2. Kd2 Bxg1 3. Qxg1 Kh7 {12, 0.58} 4. Bg5 {12, -0.58} Qd7 {12, .65}
>5. Qg4 {13, -0.31} f5 {14, .66} 6. Qh4 {14, -0.38} {And here it failed low on a6
>on ply 15 and returned a draw score. It is now searching other moves after 300
>minutes. I must retire for the night, however, and so I will let this run.
>I'll try to report back in the morning (I have to be up in 4 hours. :)}
>
>I suspect that some of these moves may be sub-optimal. Can anyone suggest some
>better alternatives before I go any further here?
Hello Jeremiah,
I cannot see Bxb2+ as accomplishing anything other than being a materialistic
move. The Rook at g1 appears to be a most dangerous piece in this position -
what do you think? What also interests me is Rebel-Tiger's move Bf4+ with the
intention of taking White's Bishop at h6 after the King moves out of check. You
might want to explore Bf4+ and after the King moves, BxB and see what Crafty
comes up with then? Of course there is the possibility that White could block
the check with Be2 but that is another variation to ponder.
White's Kingside attack is indeed dangerous and that's why I felt the need to
eliminate the Rook at g1.
In your line above, you have Qxg1 which is not possible and should be Kxg1.
>
>Jeremiah
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