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Subject: Re: Detecting "fake" Humans on Fics/ICC

Author: Djordje Vidanovic

Date: 14:40:15 03/10/00

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On March 10, 2000 at 15:04:52, Andrew Dados wrote:

>On March 10, 2000 at 14:51:21, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>On March 10, 2000 at 13:06:36, Masciulli Gianluigi wrote:
>>
>>>Is there a good way to understand if someone use a computer?
>>>
>>>(I remember an old tread here some time ago, If someone can tell me
>>>when I'll try to look on the Archive)
>>>
>>>TIA
>>>
>>>gianluigi
>>
>>It's difficult to figure it out, especially with the craftier cheats.  I will
>>usually look at move-times using the smoves command on several games.  Constant
>>move-times, especially in the opening (like 4 or 5 secs per move), are an
>>indication.  Also, you'll typically see almost no immediate moves.  A long time
>>taken for the first move can sometimes indicate that the guy is messing around
>>with the colors.
>>
>>Other than time indications, a computer cheat can show a wide variation in
>>playing strength.  You might see someone rated around 2100 beating up on comps
>>in the 2500 range, then losing to humans around 1700.
>>
>>You could also try running the suspect games with a commercial program, looking
>>for a lack of tactical errors.
>>
>>There are other ways.
>>
>>Will
>
>One interesting thing I noticed: most (all?) cheaters have no finger notes at
>all...

Andrew,

I agree with you about finger notes.  Another thing is that cheater very often
play with increment.  They need some time to consult their prog and then execute
the moves.  If you see high rated guys avoiding blitz without increment beware,
you may be playing a cheat.

***  Djordje





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