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Subject: Re: Thanks, you make my point: these programs can still be lousy at end game

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:26:42 03/10/00

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On March 10, 2000 at 17:15:08, blass uri wrote:

>On March 10, 2000 at 16:39:09, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On March 10, 2000 at 16:36:09, G. R. Morton wrote:
>>
>>>On March 10, 2000 at 15:33:16, Mike S. wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have pasted the wrong FEN string, sorry. I hope it's all ok now.
>>>>
>>>>On March 10, 2000 at 15:28:01, Mike S. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>[D]8/p1r2R2/1p1k4/7p/8/3P4/PP4K1/8 w - -
>>>>>Shredder 3, on a K6-2/400 with 12 + 4 MB hash (no TB's) switches to Rf5 after
>>>>>2:45, here is the log:
>>>>>
>>>>> 8.01   0:00.38  -0.27   2.Txc7 Kxc7 3.Kh3 Kd6 4.Kh4 Ke5 5.Kxh5 Kd4 6.Kg5 Kxd3
>>>>>7.Kh4 Kc2 (47.905) 124.4
>>>>>(...)
>>>>>14.01   0:22.14  -1.62   2.Txc7 Kxc7 3.Kh3 Kd6 4.Kh4 Ke5 5.Kxh5 Kd4 6.Kg5 Kxd3
>>>>>7.Kf5 Kc2 8.b4 Kb2 9.b5 Kxa2 10.Ke5 (2.529.945) 114.2
>>>>>14.03   2:45.70  -1.61++ 2.Tf5 (15.096.562) 91.1
>>>>>14.03   3:57.63  -1.60   2.Tf5 Tc2+ 3.Kf3 Txb2 4.a3 Ta2 5.Ke4 Txa3 6.Txh5 Ta1
>>>>>(20.829.482) 87.6
>>>>>
>>>>>But the evaluation is only 0.02 better so far.
>>>
>>>Its disappointing that shredder changes its mind only after nearly 3 minutes
>>>when it is easy to see that RxR loses simply.  Now I wish someone would answer
>>>the question about the ?Rc8-c7 Zwischenzug .
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>M.Scheidl
>>
>>
>>Tell me what you do after this:
>>
>>I play Rxc7+, you obviously play Kxc7.  I play a4 and b4 for my next two moves.
>>Which way do you go with your king?
>
>After Rxc7+ Kxc7 I think that a4 Kd6 b4 Ke5 is good for black.
>
>remember that there is a black pawn at a7 and not at h7 after the correction.
>
>Uri


it wasn't there for my analysis, of course.  :)

makes a big difference.  Textbook win for black if he trades rooks.
Textbook win for black (probably) if white doesn't trade rooks here.  :)



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