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Subject: Re: Petulant- A good description of most GMs

Author: Fernando Villegas

Date: 17:42:09 03/13/00

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On March 13, 2000 at 16:06:49, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:

>On March 13, 2000 at 13:09:15, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>
>>On March 13, 2000 at 12:19:36, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote:
>>
>>>Petulant: Unreasonably ill-tempered or irritable, peevish.
>>>
>>>It seems that distrust and fear of losing face is a real nasty problem with most
>>>GMs.  To hell with the GMs, man the torpedoes and lets' just enjoy the
>>>inevitable progress that we see in computer chess.
>>>
>>>Of course, you know that computer chess programmers can be petulant too.
>>>
>>>
>>>Xie Jun is probably a nice person but she is acting like a spoiled-rotten brat
>>>in this contest.  Amir and Shay have been entirely reasonable.  The duplicity of
>>>the Kasparov Chess center is disappointing--I expect more from the truly great
>>>Russian Kasparov.
>>>
>>>Duplicity:  Deliberate deceptiveness in behavior and/or speech.  Double dealing.
>>>
>>>
>>>Tim Frohlick
>>
>>
>>Hi Timothy:
>>Very difficult for a high performer on anything to be modest and reasonable.
>>That is more for us, common folk. It was Wilde that said that modesty is the
>>virtue of average, mediocre people? Probably because of that we, in the bottom
>>of our hearts, want to see these guys crushed by computer, our alter egoes...
>>Fernando
>
>
>Hola Fernando,
>
>A great post.  Thought provoking. Even though it might be possible to say that
>"Modesty is the certain Indication of a great Spirit" as proposed by Steele...
>An illustration and a hypothetical inference: Kasparov is certainly a great
>chessplayer but not modest, meaning not a great spirit,etc.
>
>***  Jorge

Well dgeordge, do not forget that "great spirit" does not neccesarily coincide
with great performer. Sometimes could be the opossite. But of course there are
nunaces. Maybe a relatively great performer is not modest as a rule, but a
really great one tends to be. Detachment is difficult and more difficult to whom
has given an entire life to something, so his ego coincide with that he master.
At the same time, it depends of what is mastered. Oh, this is complex...
Cheers and salutes to Alek
Fernando



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