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Subject: Re: Computer Cheat or Not?

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 18:32:46 03/14/00

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Up to ply 26, no mistakes at all by either side.  But it is not so difficult to
memorize a good patch of opening.  Here is the game eco classified:

[Event "rated blitz game"]
[Site "OK Corral"]
[Date "2000.03.09"]
[Round "-"]
[White "A.N. Other"]
[Black "N.N."]
[Result "*"]
[ECO "D85"]
[Opening "Gruenfeld"]
[Variation "exchange variation"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 d5 4. cxd5 Nxd5 5. e4 Nxc3 6. bxc3 Bg7 7. Bb5+ c6
8. Ba4 O-O 9. Nf3 Bg4 10. O-O Qa5 11. Bd2 Qh5 12. Rb1 b6 13. Re1 Nd7 14.
Bxc6 Rac8 15. Qa4 Rc7 16. e5 Rfc8 17. Be4 Nf8 18. h3 Bd7 19. Qa3 Bxh3 20.
gxh3 Qxh3 21. Ng5 Qg4+ 22. Bg2 h6 23. Re4 Qd7 24. Nxf7 Kxf7 25. e6+ Nxe6
26. Bh3 Rc6 27. Rbe1 Qd5 28. Bxe6+ Rxe6 29. Rxe6 Bf6 30. Rxf6+ Kxf6 31.
Qxe7+ Kf5 32. Re5+ Qxe5 33. Qxe5+ Kg4 34. Qe6+ *

Here are the EPD positions analyzed at 10 seconds each:
rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - acd 9; acn 896897; acs 11;
ce -6; pv e4 e6 Nf3 Nc6 Be2 Nf6 e5 Ng4 d4;
rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/3P4/8/PPP1PPPP/RNBQKBNR b KQkq d3 acd 9; acn 1002701; acs
11; ce -28; pv e6 Nf3 Nf6 e3 Bb4+ c3 Ba5 b4 Bb6;
rnbqkb1r/pppppppp/5n2/8/3P4/8/PPP1PPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - acd 10; acn 959960; acs
11; ce -3; pv e3 e6 Bd3 Nc6 Nf3 Nb4 Bb5 a6 Bc4;
rnbqkb1r/pppppppp/5n2/8/2PP4/8/PP2PPPP/RNBQKBNR b KQkq c3 acd 9; acn 970214; acs
11; ce -11; pv d5 cxd5 Nxd5 e4 Nf6 Nc3 e6 Bc4 Bb4 Bg5;
rnbqkb1r/pppppp1p/5np1/8/2PP4/8/PP2PPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - acd 9; acn 945169; acs
11; ce -4; pv Nc3 d6 e4 Bg7 e5 dxe5 dxe5 Qxd1+ Nxd1 Ng4 f4;
rnbqkb1r/pppppp1p/5np1/8/2PP4/2N5/PP2PPPP/R1BQKBNR b KQkq - acd 9; acn 961369;
acs 12; ce -25; pv d5 e3 Bg7 c5 Bf5 Nf3 Ne4 Bd3 Nxc3 bxc3;
rnbqkb1r/ppp1pp1p/5np1/3p4/2PP4/2N5/PP2PPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq d6 acd 8; acn
955402; acs 11; ce 3; pv Nf3 Nc6 Nxd5 Nxd5 cxd5 Qxd5 Bf4 Qa5+ Qd2 Qxd2+ Nxd2
Bf5;
rnbqkb1r/ppp1pp1p/5np1/3P4/3P4/2N5/PP2PPPP/R1BQKBNR b KQkq - acd 9; acn 1004734;
acs 11; ce -1; pv Nxd5 Nxd5 Qxd5 Nf3 e6 e3 Nc6 Bd3 Bd6;
rnbqkb1r/ppp1pp1p/6p1/3n4/3P4/2N5/PP2PPPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - acd 8; acn 1077051;
acs 11; ce -15; pv Nxd5 Qxd5 e3 Nc6 Qf3 e6 Bd2 Bb4 Bxb4 Nxb4 Qxd5 exd5;
rnbqkb1r/ppp1pp1p/6p1/3n4/3PP3/2N5/PP3PPP/R1BQKBNR b KQkq e3 acd 9; acn 1045478;
acs 11; ce -8; pv Nxc3 bxc3 Bg7 Nf3 O-O Bc4 c5 O-O cxd4 cxd4 e6;
rnbqkb1r/ppp1pp1p/6p1/8/3PP3/2n5/PP3PPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - acd 10; acn 1074207;
acs 12; ce 3; pv bxc3 Bg7 Nf3 c5 Bb5+ Bd7 Rb1 O-O Bxd7 Qxd7 O-O;
rnbqkb1r/ppp1pp1p/6p1/8/3PP3/2P5/P4PPP/R1BQKBNR b KQkq - acd 9; acn 1063778; acs
11; ce -8; pv Bg7 Nf3 O-O Bc4 c5 O-O cxd4 cxd4 e6;
rnbqk2r/ppp1ppbp/6p1/8/3PP3/2P5/P4PPP/R1BQKBNR w KQkq - acd 9; acn 1009977; acs
11; ce 0; pv Nf3 O-O Be2 c5 O-O Bg4 dxc5 Bxc3;
rnbqk2r/ppp1ppbp/6p1/1B6/3PP3/2P5/P4PPP/R1BQK1NR b KQkq - acd 9; acn 1016677;
acs 11; ce 13; pv c6 Be2 c5 Nf3 Nc6 Be3 Qa5 Bd2 O-O;
rnbqk2r/pp2ppbp/2p3p1/1B6/3PP3/2P5/P4PPP/R1BQK1NR w KQkq - acd 8; acn 1007857;
acs 11; ce -29; pv Bc4 b5 Be2 O-O Nf3 Qa5 Bd2 Qd8;
rnbqk2r/pp2ppbp/2p3p1/8/B2PP3/2P5/P4PPP/R1BQK1NR b KQkq - acd 9; acn 993523; acs
11; ce 6; pv b5 Bc2 O-O Ne2 e6 O-O Qf6 Bf4 Nd7;
rnbq1rk1/pp2ppbp/2p3p1/8/B2PP3/2P5/P4PPP/R1BQK1NR w KQ - acd 9; acn 1030802; acs
11; ce -13; pv Nf3 Qa5 Qc2 Qa6 Bg5 f6 Bb3+ e6 Bf4;
rnbq1rk1/pp2ppbp/2p3p1/8/B2PP3/2P2N2/P4PPP/R1BQK2R b KQ - acd 8; acn 961296; acs
11; ce 7; pv Qa5 Bb2 e5 O-O exd4 cxd4 Qb4 Bb3 Qe7;
rn1q1rk1/pp2ppbp/2p3p1/8/B2PP1b1/2P2N2/P4PPP/R1BQK2R w KQ - acd 8; acn 1011036;
acs 11; ce -8; pv O-O Qa5 Qc2 Qh5 Ba3 Bxf3 gxf3 Qg5+ Kh1 Nd7 Rg1;
rn1q1rk1/pp2ppbp/2p3p1/8/B2PP1b1/2P2N2/P4PPP/R1BQ1RK1 b - - acd 8; acn 1072820;
acs 11; ce -1; pv Qa5 Qc2 Qh5 Ba3 Re8 Rab1 b6;
rn3rk1/pp2ppbp/2p3p1/q7/B2PP1b1/2P2N2/P4PPP/R1BQ1RK1 w - - acd 8; acn 1052565;
acs 11; ce -12; pv Bd2 e5 d5 Rd8 Bb3 Qc5 h3 Bd7;
rn3rk1/pp2ppbp/2p3p1/q7/B2PP1b1/2P2N2/P2B1PPP/R2Q1RK1 b - - acd 8; acn 1055970;
acs 11; ce -2; pv e5 d5 Rd8 Bb3 Qc5 h3 Bd7 Bg5;
rn3rk1/pp2ppbp/2p3p1/7q/B2PP1b1/2P2N2/P2B1PPP/R2Q1RK1 w - - acd 9; acn 1033184;
acs 11; ce 1; pv h3 Bxf3 Qxf3 Qxf3 gxf3 Nd7 Bg5 e5 Be7 Rfe8;
rn3rk1/pp2ppbp/2p3p1/7q/B2PP1b1/2P2N2/P2B1PPP/1R1Q1RK1 b - - acd 9; acn 1143850;
acs 11; ce -10; pv b5 Bb3 Nd7 h3 Bxf3 Qxf3 Qxf3 gxf3 e5 Be3;
rn3rk1/p3ppbp/1pp3p1/7q/B2PP1b1/2P2N2/P2B1PPP/1R1Q1RK1 w - - acd 8; acn 1049620;
acs 12; ce 10; pv Bf4 c5 Qd3 e6 Rfc1 Rd8 Ne5;
rn3rk1/p3ppbp/1pp3p1/7q/B2PP1b1/2P2N2/P2B1PPP/1R1QR1K1 b - - acd 9; acn 1051407;
acs 11; ce -1; pv e5 d5 cxd5 exd5 Rd8 c4 Bf5 Rb2 Nd7;

{play by *both* parties flawless to here.  White goes up a pawn:}

r4rk1/p2nppbp/1pp3p1/7q/B2PP1b1/2P2N2/P2B1PPP/1R1QR1K1 w - - acd 10; acn
1279253; acs 11; ce 125; pv Bxc6 Rac8 Bb5 Rfd8 h3 Bxf3 Qxf3 Qxf3 gxf3 e6 Bg5;
r4rk1/p2nppbp/1pB3p1/7q/3PP1b1/2P2N2/P2B1PPP/1R1QR1K1 b - - acd 9; acn 1263119;
acs 12; ce -130; pv Rac8 Bb5 Rfd8 h3 Bxf3 Qxf3 Qxf3 gxf3 e6 Bg5;
2r2rk1/p2nppbp/1pB3p1/7q/3PP1b1/2P2N2/P2B1PPP/1R1QR1K1 w - - acd 8; acn 1254475;
acs 11; ce 125; pv Qa4;
2r2rk1/p2nppbp/1pB3p1/7q/Q2PP1b1/2P2N2/P2B1PPP/1R2R1K1 b - - acd 8; acn 1111603;
acs 11; ce -169; pv Rfd8 Rb5 Nc5 dxc5 Bxf3 cxb6 Qg4 Rg5;
5rk1/p1rnppbp/1pB3p1/7q/Q2PP1b1/2P2N2/P2B1PPP/1R2R1K1 w - - acd 9; acn 1118787;
acs 11; ce 179; pv h3 Bxh3 gxh3 Nb8 Bf4 Rxc6 Bxb8 Rxb8 Qxc6 Qxf3;
5rk1/p1rnppbp/1pB3p1/4P2q/Q2P2b1/2P2N2/P2B1PPP/1R2R1K1 b - - acd 8; acn 1110330;
acs 10; ce -107; pv Bf5 Be4 Bxe4 Rxe4 e6 Qc2 Qf5 Bg5;
2r3k1/p1rnppbp/1pB3p1/4P2q/Q2P2b1/2P2N2/P2B1PPP/1R2R1K1 w - - acd 9; acn
1209061; acs 12; ce 136; pv e6 Rxc6 exd7 Bxd7 Qxa7 Qf5 Nh4 Qc2 Qxd7 Qxd2 Rxe7
Rxc3;
2r3k1/p1rnppbp/1p4p1/4P2q/Q2PB1b1/2P2N2/P2B1PPP/1R2R1K1 b - - acd 8; acn
1148792; acs 11; ce -123; pv Bh6 Bxh6 Qxh6 h3 Bxf3 Bxf3 Nf8 Qb4 e6 Re3;
2r2nk1/p1r1ppbp/1p4p1/4P2q/Q2PB1b1/2P2N2/P2B1PPP/1R2R1K1 w - - acd 9; acn
1096475; acs 11; ce 125; pv h3 Be6 d5 Bd7 Qb4 Rc5 Qd4 e6;
2r2nk1/p1r1ppbp/1p4p1/4P2q/Q2PB1b1/2P2N1P/P2B1PP1/1R2R1K1 b - - acd 9; acn
1110667; acs 11; ce -136; pv Bd7 Qa3 h6 Qxe7 Bxh3 Qh4 Qxh4 Nxh4 Bg4;
2r2nk1/p1rbppbp/1p4p1/4P2q/Q2PB3/2P2N1P/P2B1PP1/1R2R1K1 w - - acd 8; acn
1143679; acs 11; ce 125; pv Qa3 Re8 d5 h6 d6 exd6 exd6 Rc4 Rb4;
2r2nk1/p1rbppbp/1p4p1/4P2q/3PB3/Q1P2N1P/P2B1PP1/1R2R1K1 b - - acd 8; acn
1073904; acs 11; ce -133; pv Re8 Ng5 b5 Bd5 e6 Qd6 Rec8 Be4;

{play by *both* parties flawless to here.  White goes up _another_ pawn:}

2r2nk1/p1r1ppbp/1p4p1/4P2q/3PB3/Q1P2N1b/P2B1PP1/1R2R1K1 w - - acd 10; acn
1338362; acs 11; ce 258; pv gxh3 Qxh3 Qc1 Qg4+ Kh2 Ne6 Bd5 Rd7 Be4 Rc4;
2r2nk1/p1r1ppbp/1p4p1/4P2q/3PB3/Q1P2N1P/P2B1P2/1R2R1K1 b - - acd 9; acn 1166040;
acs 11; ce -297; pv Qxh3 Qc1 Qg4+ Kh2 Ne6 Rb5 h6 Bd5 Qh5+ Kg2 Qg4+ Kh1;
2r2nk1/p1r1ppbp/1p4p1/4P3/3PB3/Q1P2N1q/P2B1P2/1R2R1K1 w - - acd 8; acn 1188271;
acs 11; ce 258; pv Ng5 Qg4+ Bg2 h6 Nf3 Qf5 Qc1 e6 a4;
2r2nk1/p1r1ppbp/1p4p1/4P1N1/3PB3/Q1P4q/P2B1P2/1R2R1K1 b - - acd 9; acn 1243350;
acs 11; ce -290; pv Qg4+ Bg2 h6 Nf3 e6 Qc1 Nd7 Rb3 Qh5;
2r2nk1/p1r1ppbp/1p4p1/4P1N1/3PB1q1/Q1P5/P2B1P2/1R2R1K1 w - - acd 9; acn 1149341;
acs 11; ce 248; pv Bg2 h6 Nf3 e6 Qc1 Nd7 Qc2 a6;
2r2nk1/p1r1ppbp/1p4p1/4P1N1/3P2q1/Q1P5/P2B1PB1/1R2R1K1 b - - acd 8; acn 1124878;
acs 10; ce -290; pv h6 Ne4 Ne6 d5 Nc5 Nxc5 Rxc5 e6 Bxc3 Bxc3 Rxc3 Qxe7;
2r2nk1/p1r1ppb1/1p4pp/4P1N1/3P2q1/Q1P5/P2B1PB1/1R2R1K1 w - - acd 9; acn 1207541;
acs 12; ce 261; pv Ne4 Ne6 d5 Nf4 Bxf4 Qxf4 d6 exd6 exd6 Rxc3 Qxa7;
2r2nk1/p1r1ppb1/1p4pp/4P1N1/3PR1q1/Q1P5/P2B1PB1/1R4K1 b - - acd 9; acn 1145899;
acs 10; ce -299; pv Qd7 Nh3 Qf5 Qc1 e6 Rf4 Qd3 Rg4;
2r2nk1/p1rqppb1/1p4pp/4P1N1/3PR3/Q1P5/P2B1PB1/1R4K1 w - - acd 8; acn 1077450;
acs 11; ce 254; pv Nh3 Qf5 Nf4 e6 Qc1 Nd7 Ne2 h5;
2r2nk1/p1rqpNb1/1p4pp/4P3/3PR3/Q1P5/P2B1PB1/1R4K1 b - - acd 10; acn 1418638; acs
11; ce -243; pv Kxf7 e6+ Nxe6 Bh3 Qd5 Bxe6+ Qxe6 Rxe6 Kxe6 Re1+ Kf6 Bf4 Rxc3
Qxe7+;
2r2n2/p1rqpkb1/1p4pp/4P3/3PR3/Q1P5/P2B1PB1/1R4K1 w - - acd 9; acn 1445893; acs
11; ce 243; pv e6+ Nxe6 Bh3 Qd5 Bxe6+ Qxe6 Rxe6 Kxe6 Re1+ Kf7 Bf4 Rd7 Kg2;
2r2n2/p1rqpkb1/1p2P1pp/8/3PR3/Q1P5/P2B1PB1/1R4K1 b - - acd 10; acn 1383046; acs
11; ce -276; pv Nxe6 Bh3 Qd5 Bxe6+ Qxe6 Rxe6 Kxe6 Re1+ Kf7 Bf4 Rd7 Kg2;
2r5/p1rqpkb1/1p2n1pp/8/3PR3/Q1P5/P2B1PB1/1R4K1 w - - acd 9; acn 1328154; acs 10;
ce 276; pv Bh3 Qd5 Bxe6+ Qxe6 Rxe6 Kxe6 Re1+ Kf7 Bf4 Rd7 Kg2;
2r5/p1rqpkb1/1p2n1pp/8/3PR3/Q1P4B/P2B1P2/1R4K1 b - - acd 9; acn 1324923; acs 11;
ce -315; pv Qd5 Bxe6+ Qxe6 Rxe6 Kxe6 Re1+ Kf7 Bf4 Rd7 Qb3+ Kf8 Qe6;
2r5/p2qpkb1/1pr1n1pp/8/3PR3/Q1P4B/P2B1P2/1R4K1 w - - acd 8; acn 1212854; acs 11;
ce 328; pv Rbe1 Qd5 Qxa7 b5 f3 Bf8 Bxe6+ Rxe6 Rxe6 Qxe6 Rxe6 Kxe6;
2r5/p2qpkb1/1pr1n1pp/8/3PR3/Q1P4B/P2B1P2/4R1K1 b - - acd 8; acn 1348874; acs 11;
ce -384; pv Qd5 c4 Qxc4 Bxe6+ Rxe6 Rxe6 Bf6 Rxe7+ Bxe7 Rxe7+ Kf6 Bxh6 Qxd4 Qxa7;
2r5/p3pkb1/1pr1n1pp/3q4/3PR3/Q1P4B/P2B1P2/4R1K1 w - - acd 9; acn 1481127; acs
12; ce 366; pv c4 Qxc4 Bxe6+ Rxe6 Rxe6 Kg8 Rxg6 Qf7 Qg3 h5;
2r5/p3pkb1/1pr1B1pp/3q4/3PR3/Q1P5/P2B1P2/4R1K1 b - - acd 11; acn 1568665; acs
11; ce -483; pv Rxe6 Rxe6 Qxe6 Rxe6 Kxe6 Qxa7 Rc6 Qb7 Rd6 Bf4 Rd5 Qxb6+;
2r5/p3pkb1/1p2r1pp/3q4/3PR3/Q1P5/P2B1P2/4R1K1 w - - acd 10; acn 1627845; acs 12;
ce 483; pv Rxe6 Qxe6 Rxe6 Kxe6 Qxa7 Rc6 Qb7 Rd6 Bf4 Rd5 Qxb6+;
2r5/p3pkb1/1p2R1pp/3q4/3P4/Q1P5/P2B1P2/4R1K1 b - - acd 10; acn 1486810; acs 11;
ce -483; pv Qxe6 Rxe6 Kxe6 Qxa7 Rh8 Qxb6+ Kf7 Kg2 Bf6 Qc7 Ke6;
2r5/p3pk2/1p2Rbpp/3q4/3P4/Q1P5/P2B1P2/4R1K1 w - - acd 8; acn 1872522; acs 11; ce
816; pv Rxf6+ exf6 Qxa7+ Kg8 Bxh6 Qf7 Re7 Qxe7 Qxe7 Rxc3 Qxf6;
2r5/p3pk2/1p3Rpp/3q4/3P4/Q1P5/P2B1P2/4R1K1 b - - acd 9; acn 1674562; acs 10; ce
-1415; pv exf6 Qxa7+ Kg8 Re7 Qe6 Rxe6 h5 Rxf6 b5 Qf7+ Kh8 Rxg6;
2r5/p3p3/1p3kpp/3q4/3P4/Q1P5/P2B1P2/4R1K1 w - - acd 8; acn 1907483; acs 11; ce
32754; pv Qxe7+ Kf5 Re5+ Kg4 Re4+ Qxe4 Qxe4+ Kh3 Qf3+ Kh4 Qg3+ Kh5 Qh3#;
2r5/p3Q3/1p3kpp/3q4/3P4/2P5/P2B1P2/4R1K1 b - - acd 1; acn 1907483; acs 1; ce 0;
pv Kf5;
2r5/p3Q3/1p4pp/3q1k2/3P4/2P5/P2B1P2/4R1K1 w - - acd 8; acn 2085329; acs 11; ce
32756; pv Re5+ Kg4 Re4+ Qxe4 Qxe4+ Kh3 Qf3+ Kh4 Qg3+ Kh5 Qh3#;
2r5/p3Q3/1p4pp/3qRk2/3P4/2P5/P2B1P2/6K1 b - - acd 9; acn 1941190; acs 11; ce
-32757; pv Qxe5 Qxe5+ Kg4 Qe4+ Kh3 Qf3+ Kh4 Qg3+ Kh5 Qh3#;
2r5/p3Q3/1p4pp/4qk2/3P4/2P5/P2B1P2/6K1 w - - acd 8; acn 1969307; acs 11; ce
32758; pv Qxe5+ Kg4 Qe4+ Kh3 Qf3+ Kh4 Qg3+ Kh5 Qh3#;
2r5/p7/1p4pp/4Qk2/3P4/2P5/P2B1P2/6K1 b - - acd 1; acn 1969307; acs 1; ce 0; pv
Kg4;
2r5/p7/1p4pp/4Q3/3P2k1/2P5/P2B1P2/6K1 w - - acd 7; acn 554013; acs 3; ce 32760;
pv Qe4+ Kh3 Qf3+ Kh4 Qg3+ Kh5 Qh3#;
2r5/p7/1p2Q1pp/8/3P2k1/2P5/P2B1P2/6K1 b - - acd 8; acn 1838268; acs 11; ce
-32759; pv Kf3 Qe3+ Kg4 f3+ Kg3 Qf4+ Kh3 Qg4#;

White appears to have played relentlessly and flawlessly.  Black made two
mistakes.  Draw your own conclusions.  Personally, I don't believe you should
convict someone for playing perfectly.  However, if the game was rapid, I smell
a rat.  Maybe two rats.



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