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Subject: Re: ChessGenius on a Overclocked Palm vs. Roma 68020

Author: Len Eisner

Date: 15:22:03 03/15/00

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On March 15, 2000 at 13:39:18, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On March 14, 2000 at 22:47:17, Len Eisner wrote:
>
>>On March 14, 2000 at 20:01:39, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On March 14, 2000 at 16:56:28, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 14, 2000 at 16:15:36, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 14, 2000 at 14:55:01, Côme wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>NT
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes it is possible. You can download a Palm emulator for PC from www.palm.com.
>>>>>
>>>>>But you'll need a Palm ROM to run the emulator, and the Palm ROM is copyrighted,
>>>>>and not provided with the emulator.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you have a Palm, you can upload its ROM to your PC. The process is described
>>>>>in the emulator package. This way you get a fully functional emulator.
>>>>>
>>>>>PocketChess runs fine on my PC, under the Palm emulator. But you need to know
>>>>>that it runs 2 times slower than a standard PalmIIIx (I have a K6-2 400MHz).
>>>>>That is about 5 times slower than my overclocked PalmIIIx.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>
>>>>You have an overclocked PalmIIIx?  Amazing.
>>>
>>>
>>>All PalmIII, PalmIIIx, PalmV and PalmVII can be overclocked by software. You do
>>>not need to open the device. The processor's clock frequency can be adjusted by
>>>software (that's one of the nice things of the DragonBall processor), and all
>>>Palms are running by default far away from their limits.
>>>
>>>There is a freeware (actually there are several ones) that you can download to
>>>overclock your Palm. I'm using AfterBurner 2.2. The Palm runs by default at
>>>16.58MHz. Mine runs at 26MHz since 6 months without any problem. With
>>>overclocking and adjustement of the hardware settings (zero wait states for
>>>example), my Palm runs 2.5 faster than a normal one.
>>>
>>
>>This means that ChessGenius running on an overclocked Palm should be stronger
>>than the original 14MHz Roma 68020.
>>
>>I took a look at the spec sheets for both processors on Motorola’s WEB page.
>>Based on this I would rate the Roma 14MHz 68020 at 4.25 MIPS and your
>>overclocked Palm at 6.75 MIPS.  So ChessGenius on an overclocked Palm should be
>>faster, even without the Permanent Brain feature.
>>
>>By the way, here’s the information from the Motorola Spec Sheets:
>>MC68020: 10 MIPS @ 33 MHz
>>MC68EZ328: 2.7 MIPS @ 16.58 MHz
>>
>>Len
>
>
>I fear this is not so simple. I'm not sure Motorola's figures about the speed of
>the DragonBall EZ can be taken as is.
>
>Somebody who has been in contact with Richard told me that the normal Palm
>is the equivalent of a Roma running at 12 MHz on a 68000.
>
>So I'm a little bit lost. Did the original 1987 Roma include a 68020 or a 68000?
>At which frequency?
>
>
>
>    Christophe

The original Roma program came in two speeds: 12 mhz 68000 and 14 mhz 68020.
The 68020 version was very expensive as I recall.

I guess ChessGenius on the Palm at 16 mhz is comparable in speed to the Roma 12
mhz 68000, and the overclocked Palm (2.5 times faster) is about 47% faster than
the Roma 68020 (6.75MIPS vs. 4.25 MIPS).

Of course, the original Roma program had the permanent brain feature, and that
should be worth at least 30 points.

Len



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