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Subject: Re: Game from US correspondence championship finals

Author: Robin Smith

Date: 11:17:43 03/17/00

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On March 17, 2000 at 04:16:41, Dave Gomboc wrote:

>On March 17, 2000 at 04:10:57, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>
>>On March 16, 2000 at 14:29:21, Robin Smith wrote:
>>
>>>On March 16, 2000 at 03:09:17, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 15, 2000 at 14:17:59, Robin Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In the 13th US correspondence chess championship finals I played a move that my
>>>>>computer NEVER finds.  Do any programs find 17.... Qd5!
>>>>
>>>>I haven't seen it come out on top as a program's first choice, but the programs
>>>>I tried seem to realize that it is playable.  Modern programs know that the
>>>>wandering king and the blocked-off queen spell big trouble for White.  They
>>>>don't even play Nb6, preferring moves like Ne3 to try to give the White king a
>>>>smidgen of protection or two. ;-)  Perhaps your opponent consulted with an
>>>>somewhat older program?
>>>
>>>I think that Ne3 would allow white to play on longer than Nb6, but the game
>>>would still be lost.  My opponent probably realized as much.  His resignation
>>>included the comment "I gambled and I lost".
>>>
>>>This game was concluded back in December, so my opponent, if he was consulting a
>>>computer, could not have been using any of the latest programs that have come
>>>out recently.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>
>>Deep Junior thinks that Ne3 or f3 should have been played earlier too, like
>>instead of Qa4.  It still thinks Black has a great position, even after these
>>moves.  When I meant an older program, I mean one that is several (e.g. 5) years
>>old.
>>
>>Pretty big gamble!  (I thought people didn't do that in correspondence chess, it
>>sounds very risky.)
>>
>>Dave
>
>Just saw Dann's analysis with Crafty... Crafty didn't do so well.  Maybe any
>helper program was newer than I thought. :/
>
>Dave

I think my opponent was refering to Nb6, which is a gamble in the sense that it
losses, but only if black continues correctly.  The alternative was not very
appealing either, at that point.

What does deep junior think about 17.... Qd5.  I would like to know if ANY
program wants to play this move, even after an overnight "think".

Robin



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