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Subject: Re: The other games in the israeli league

Author: Shanti

Date: 02:25:24 03/18/00

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>I think that rules that upgrade are illegal are unfair and if I knew before of
>my decision to work for Ed in the first place that I cannot change nothing
>except opening books then maybe I would not want to operate Rebel.
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>humans can learn between games and not only opening books so it is not fair
>that computers have no right to learn between games.
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I think you can argue whether using an upgrade is fair or not. I can state
reason for both sides.

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>Rami tal said that it is the same as playing with another player and I do not
>agree because the difference in knowledge if you upgrade the software is
>similiar to the difference in knowledge of the same player and not of different
>players.

Again there is a big question is what an upgrade is. Actually you can wrap any
new major version as an update.

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>Do you mean that the second part (just wants to win) is twisting the truth or
>also the first part (is not interested in computer chess)
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>About the second part:
>My experience with him is that he does every legal thing in order to win.
>If someone got the impression that I say that he did something illegal then I
>apologize.
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>Some facts:
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>Rami Tal demanded that I will play by the rules only before the game against
>shredder.
>He did not do it when he knew that I used the upgrade in the first time.
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You assume he knew that you were using an upgrade before the game with Shredder.
Actually I told it to him just before the round.

>Rami Tal also demanded that Junior will not be connected to the internet in the
>game against shredder when I had no problem with it because I think that not
>letting Junior to be connected to the internet is unfair and I do not care about
>cheating because I believe Amir Ban and it is also posssible to check it.
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I can see reasons for that as well. Will you allow a player to play in the
league through a cellular phone?

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>Rami Tal also voted against computers in the league and this give me the
>impression that he does not interested in computer chess.
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Since I talked with him about that few times I know he has reasons for that (I
agree with some of his reasons).
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>He prefered to take advantage of operator errors instead of letting the operator
>to take back a move and play a real comp-comp games.
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As a captain of a team I'm not sure what would I do. anyway you can argue what
should you do in case of an error. When do you correct an error? after 1 move ,
two moves, after ten moves atc. By the way the rules declares that the position
on the board and clock are the game reference. What about the clocks? Why should
a computer have better chances just because his operator is faster? We can just
let the computer clocks decide (There is some logic in doing so).

Best regards,
Shanti




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