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Subject: Re: handles of original engines

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 03:08:22 03/20/00

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On March 19, 2000 at 04:28:53, Steffen Jakob wrote:

>Hi!
>
>Does anybody have an as complete as possible list of handles of original engines
>which are playing at ICC? I think about allowing - at least temporary - only
>orginal programs (and some selected clones like "Beadle") to play Hossa, because
>I saw too many games against clones in the last weeks.
>
>Best wishes,
>Steffen.

Hello Steffen,
I'm having trouble understanding why programmers on ICC want to limit who their
programs play.  Crafty is complaining about playing too many Chess Tiger clones
and Scrappy does not want to play computers except at long time controls(If I
understand the formulas --It's possible I do not).  I know Bob wants to maximize
his programs vs GM's but let's be honest, most GM's are easier to beat than
programs like Fritz or Tiger or Junior.  Is it the rating points that drive
everything on ICC?  Are the rating points so precious that programmers have to
select who they play in order to maximize the points?  Is everything done on ICC
to make your program "Look" stronger than it really is?  Why do the computer
operators on ICC seem to take everything personal as if they have been violated
when their programs lose?  Don't you learn more from a loss than from beating
someone that blundered the game away?  Don't the losses show you more places to
improve your program than the blunders by opponents?  Of course I'm not a
programmer so I'm having trouble relating to the formulas and finger notes
designed to limit who plays and how many games can be played.
Jim Walker



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